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I'm very nervous, right?
I'm nervous, right?
Hello, thank you for your time.
I'm nervous, but I think I'll learn the most about interviewing people who are interviewing, so I'll do my best.
Thank you for your time.
The best hypnotist, Gen-channel!
When I met you today, the first thing I wanted to ask you is what you are doing as an interviewer, and what you are trying to do first.
I interview, interview, and then I write in a book.
I write a manuscript, so interviewing is not the end of it.
Interviewing for writing a book or writing a manuscript only ends in a moment on TV and so on, right?
Yes, that's right.
But it's a book, so it continues.
You can also spend a lot of time.
Interviewing is the most difficult but most wonderful thing.
You can know about the other person.
A lot of great teachers make people do it, but you can't make people do it.
You have to go wherever you go, meet people, look at their faces, move your hands and feet, where you swallowed your tongue, where you blinked and what you blinked when you spoke.
There are times when you laugh even if you are sad, right?
Yes, there are.
And you laugh even if you are happy, right?
You can't know that difference unless you meet them in person.
That's right.
So you have to look at that and see what's behind them.
For example, if there is a window behind you and it's raining, or who passed behind you.
For example, in a lounge or something like that.
I interview people like that so that they can see that scene floating in their minds.
So you write a book and tell people so that they can see that scene floating in their minds.
It's not all made up stories, it's all written about reality.
Oh, I see.
Yes, that's right.
That's amazing.
That means you're interested in people.
For example, if you have a lot going on in your mind and you know you don't want to say it out loud and you know you'll be interviewed,
you end up not saying it out loud, or you end up crying because it's too heavy for you, or you end up falling in love.
What do you do to get people's opinions out?
I get people to say things I don't want them to say.
They don't talk to me right away.
But there are a lot of people who have been hurt, so I go see them as many times as I can.
I don't try to make them talk.
If they're quiet, I don't talk much, and I drink tea.
I don't care if they're quiet or not.
If you're good at talking, you don't like it when people are quiet.
I'm fine with it.
That "ma" thing.
That's why I don't negotiate with anyone and just come back.
If it's something they don't want to talk about and they're not ready yet,
I don't write anything that could hurt them.
I don't show them my manuscript either.
I try to go see them until they think I can trust them.
People can feel things.
So even if you're quiet, if you start a fight, your opponent's heart will start to break.
That's right.
If you can meet me, I think we can feel safe.
Both of you?
Yes.
I'm an interviewer, so if I talk, I waste my time.
I see.
When I interview journalists and others,
some people try to make me say, "What, what, what, what, what, what?"
If I say, "What, what, what, what, what,"
my opponent's time to talk will be shorter and they won't say what they really think.
Because I haven't given them a chance.
So I try to talk less.
There are a lot of things that hypnosis can do.
Is that so?
When you try to read someone's mind or try to do hypnosis,
if you induce everything with hypnosis, your opponent will only say "yes."
But if you say, "What do you think about hypnosis?"
your opponent may not think it's suspicious, but if you ask everything,
you can narrow it down and your opponent's heart will expand.
So there are a lot of things that you can do.
I see.
Your opponent will start to talk a lot.
For example, you can start crying or get emotional.
When my opponent is crying, I'm already crying.
Ah, you're already emotional.
That's the same.
I'm already crying.
Ah, you're already emotional.
It's really similar to hypnosis.
When I'm angry, I'm already angry.
It's very similar to hypnosis and psychotherapy.
It's different whether you agree with it or not,
but when you share emotions and time with that person,
we get angry and cry together.
You are a person of heart.
You want to talk with that person because your hearts are connected.
That's why we don't count.
That's right.
Yes.
But it's all a serious game.
That's right.
And it takes time, so it's not for TV.
It's very rude of me, but I have to apologize first.
Your image of me has changed.
Thank you.
You have really changed.
Men often think of me as a strong woman.
To be honest, I thought you were a little strong.
The scary world was covered, but I'm not scared.
My husband is scarier than a ghost.
That's right.
I think it's okay to say that I'm sorry for anything.
When I'm interviewed, I think my cat or my mother will ask me.
When I'm doing hypnosis, I think I'll be manipulated.
I think it's easy to misunderstand at first.
When you're misunderstood, how do you open your partner's heart?
I think people who aren't interviewed usually think that way.
But people who are interviewed meet up with us several times and gradually start asking us questions.
I see. At first you think that way, but as you interview more and more, you realize that you are different from us.
We are one-shot competition, but you meet up with us several times and ask us detailed questions.
I write down everything that person has said, but I think that if I write about this, people will misunderstand me.
So I try not to write about it.
Even if I write about a girl or a young man, if I write about this, people might misunderstand me and take me for granted.
But in the future, if I write about this, people might misunderstand me and take me for granted.
I think it's okay for me to talk about this because people are starting to understand me.
We have been building trust relationships for a long time, but there are a lot of things like hypnosis and psychological counseling that come up.
I see.
If you don't open your heart, you won't open your mouth.
I've been interviewing for a long time in magazines.
They're all famous people. Celebrities and so on.
But it's only a short time, only two hours.
Before that, I'm going to study that person for the time being.
I've got knowledge in there.
Pretending I don't have any knowledge in there.
Oh, I see.
And I'm going to have that person talk to me.
I see.
So I'm going to study in advance.
Isn't it difficult to speak in a way you don't know even if you have some knowledge in there?
Sometimes.
Sometimes I say it and fail.
You do, don't you?
I do.
When I'm happy.
Yes, yes.
Sometimes I say it and fail.
You want to say it.
Yes, yes.
I've done it before.
But for example, when I'm talking with a writer, I'm often asked, "You don't read, do you?"
I don't want to do that.
I see.
I'm going to read a book or talk with a lyricist or listen to a song in advance.
I think that's the minimum etiquette.
You're an interviewer and you're a writer.
Yes.
Do you have the power to put things together?
I don't have much.
Oh, you don't have much you've heard of.
No, I don't think I have much.
Oh, you don't?
Yes.
So, when I first started writing, there was a lot of bullying.
It was still a male-dominated media.
So, when a woman came out of her underwear and said, "I'm not good at writing," there was a lot of bullying in magazines and other places.
Oh, I see.
So, I finally stopped it after I got a royal education award.
Then, after that, there are people who say, "You should give me back the award."
It's the envy of the world.
I see.
At that time, I still wanted to be an actress.
Three actresses?
Yes.
First of all, it was the worst thing for me to appear in my own movie in my underwear.
Oh, I see.
So, when I started working as an actress, I was able to work as a reporter for a publisher and earn my living expenses.
Oh, you weren't interested in it at first.
Yes.
You were doing it as a side job.
Yes, I was doing it as a side job.
I went to sell it as an actress.
Yes.
Then I was told that I wasn't sexy and tall enough everywhere.
Yes.
The production team wouldn't hire me anywhere.
Yes.
I happened to get the role of Misako Tanaka's friend in that movie, so I went to sell it.
I was told again that my hair and height were not enough, and I was told that something was popular recently, and I had that kind of hair color.
I love dancing in Roppongi, so I talked about what I saw and heard in Roppongi, which is not different from the crime now, such as drugs and prostitution.
Even if I don't say much about what I saw and heard in Roppongi, I know what I saw and heard in Roppongi, so I decided to write about it.
But you were able to see and hear the crime world of Roppongi for the first time, so weren't you able to easily understand and understand various things that were said when you were interviewing your wives in Roppongi?
The crime world of Roppongi and the drug world of Roppongi and prostitution world of Roppongi are different.
In the past, there was a license for prostitution.
Oh, license! License is a good thing.
Yes.
It's been decades since then.
The crime world of Roppongi and prostitution world of Roppongi were different in those days.
I see.
I think it's very difficult for people who know how to keep their mouths shut.
We don't keep our mouths shut!
That's right! That's what it is.
That's why we keep our mouths shut and wait for our partners to speak.
But we can't do anything about it.
We can't do anything about it, so let me live in Roppongi.
That's what I said in an interview at the house of one of the members of the Yamaguchi family.
My partner didn't speak up for me.
I'm an amateur, too.
"Weren't you ever really sad?" "Weren't you ever shed any tears?"
I didn't go around like I do now.
I threw a straight ball, so it's easy for my partner to say, "No, I didn't."
I forgot about it.
Even if we were talking in the house with young people,
if I went there, I'd open my mouth and say, "Good night," and close it.
I'd do it like this, but we'd have a couple's conversation in a place where you couldn't hear me anymore.
They don't talk to me because they think I have to listen.
I thought about quitting it one day.
If you're good at talking, you probably don't know,
but people who are bad at talking and few people often think about what to talk about next.
So no matter what you try to say, it's all tangled up and you can't make people enjoy it.
You can't have a good conversation.
Even if you talk about it in public, you can't move forward.
But I didn't have to ask, because I was able to enter this house.
I didn't have to ask, because I was able to enter this house.
I decided to stop speaking badly.
One day, I thought about what I could do and realized that I was good at listening.
And then, that night, my partner started speaking.
And the words that came out of it were words that touched my heart.
I really wanted to tell this to everyone in the world,
so I asked other women in my group to interview me.
It was during "gokutsuma", so it was the catchphrase of the movie "the man I loved happened to be a thug".
Wow. Can I say something?
Yes.
I've been listening to you for a while now and you're good at talking.
That's not true! This is in the past.
You're good enough!
It's in the past.
I always say this when I go to the park.
I'm talking because it's a park.
I'm talking because I can't talk in a park unless I talk in a park.
But I'm really bad at talking.
Ah, that's good.
I'm often told that I'm good at talking.
I'm jealous.
When I get home and my wife is next to me, I can't talk.
Ah, is that so?
I like being alone and next to my wife,
but when I get home and I'm at my computer after getting married,
my wife opens the door and says, "Are you angry?"
I say, "No," and close the door.
After a while, when it's been about ten minutes again, I say, "I'm not really angry."
When I say, "What?"
She says, "You talk so much outside and before you get married, but why don't you talk at home?"
I say, "No, I'm most relieved and relieved in the house, so I don't talk in a place where I'm so relieved."
She said, "What? You can't relax, so you're talking to make peace?"
I said, "Yes, that's right!"
After all, there is anxiety about the world you do not know or things you do not know,
so it is human nature to talk and compensate for it or try to reassure your heart,
but it is drawn out using it.
I learned the most today.
What do you think?
Yes, if I have something from now on, I will try to be quiet.
"Gokutsu na Shigiru" was very popular, wasn't it?
Thank you very much.
Isn't there anything that caused misunderstanding due to it?
Well, first of all, I wrote it, but "non-fiction" is self-expenses, isn't it?
So I sold everything that was sold and sold two yakisoba balls for 70 yen a day at the supermarket,
and I ate only the ones that didn't have ingredients and just fried them,
and I sold books, records, furniture, clothes, and various things that were sold,
and the cash I was receiving was really small money, so I had a lot of debt.
I was able to repay my debts with cash or video by the money I received from you, but a lot of people I didn't know came to me.
"Lend it to me." "You know it," they said. "I have a lot of relatives and classmates I don't know." "Relatives you don't know?" "Yes." "What is your relationship with them?" "They are my classmates," they said. "I don't know."
There were a lot of people like that. When I was only twenty-three or twenty-four years old and didn't know anything about the entertainment world, I began to be visualized, and there were various people in the entertainment world.
If your wife is in that state now, I think I can judge by my own judgment whether this person is reliable or not.
But at that time, I believed everything that was said, so I had a lot of bitter thoughts. "Oh, I see." I think I have no choice but to take it to the grave because other people are alive, but I have had bitter thoughts.
So, for this wicked wife, if I had such painful thoughts, I would have hated the title "Wicked Wives" at some point in my life.
And I had to say "I am a jester who wrote "Wicked Wives" so that they wouldn't know me, and there were times when I was jealous of my own work.
But as I walked down the street, every time a woman said "I called you!" or "I'm so glad you came," I gradually became less and less jealous of such people, and I became a little more mature, and thanks to this wicked wife, thanks to my wives, I was able to do this kind of writing activity and write other works, and I was born with gratitude.
And I felt like I should walk together.
It's nice that you understand it.
No, it's amazing. I'm glad you have a lot of things to sympathize with today.
Thank you very much.
After all, there was also the story of the collaboration earlier, and after all it came out on TV and suddenly it was spoiled and said "Who would believe such a thing?" and I was so touched.
I had a lot of unpleasant thoughts, but after all, when I was walking down the street, unlike the image I had before, there were a lot of people who said "I like it because it's fun" and "I'll do my best" when I was walking down the street, and I feel close to it on my own.
Yes, and there is one question there.
My occupation is...
I am a hypnotist.
Just by saying "hypnotism" people don't believe me or doubt me.
People say "what is that?"
I think it's because I don't get advice like "shouldn't you talk like this?"
It's very difficult.
But even if there are people who don't believe you,
on the other hand, there are a lot of people who believe you and like you.
Well, yes.
Isn't it good?
Oh, you think it's okay?
Yes, yes.
If you work seriously and don't do bad things,
there will be more people who like you naturally.
You don't have to be on everyone's side.
Even if you say it because you don't know, isn't it okay?
That's right.
Don't use too much energy.
Thank you very much.
But I have a lot of empathy for what you said now.
You say it because you don't know, right?
Yes, yes.
People in the world say "I don't know why I'm hypnotized, but I don't know why I'm not hypnotized."
Yes, yes.
Because you don't know, right?
Yes, that's right.
You say it because you don't know, right?
Yes, yes.
How did you feel when you actually talked to me today?
As an opponent of that one group.
You're very good at talking.
If I had that much Japanese technique, I would have been on TV more.
Oh, I see.
I was bullied, and my parents raped me.
If I say something, I get hit, so I have a habit of keeping quiet.
And my personality also gets dark.
If I didn't have this experience, I think I would have done more TV work.
If you react to something, I'll shut up.
Yes, yes.
But I often get orders like "say it hard" in debates and stuff like that.
Yes, from the image.
You're called "character".
Yes, yes.
At first, I honestly thought you'd have to say something I could hear more from you.
But you say you're not good at talking, and you're good at talking.
Thank you.
So I interviewed you and let you study, and I'm grateful that it's so easy for you.
Thank you.
I hope you become a good practice partner.
I was really happy.