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Thinking about the future of SK48.
Zero Poji. Not live debate.
This "Zero Poji" is a debate where 17 members gather and seriously talk about the future of SK48.
Previous debates were live broadcasts, but this time they will be recorded for three weeks.
It's an opening with a sense of tension.
Are all the members okay?
It's a little serious.
My face is a little bad.
Is it bad?
I can't say a word, but the members...
I'm worried about the members.
This program will also be broadcast four times.
Now, let's have a debate about the group's present and future.
The person who will watch over the debate is...
Japanese TV producer, Mouri Shinobu, who has been in charge of various 48-group programs.
Last year, he graduated from the group.
Former leader of Team Ketsu, Ovan Mira.
He has been supporting SK48 for 13 years.
Comedy entertainer, Yurio Kachou Tokyu.
And TV producer, Yusuke Takeraka.
These 21 people will debate, but...
The members will be decided by lottery.
Each of you will hit your feelings for SKY48 with the three groups you see here.
I wonder if we can't do it with our own strength alone.
There are too many differences.
I want to be an idol who can appear in a lot of singing programs.
Before we start the discussion, I'd like to say that we'll be recording for 60 minutes.
If we don't provide accurate comments and thoughts during the 30-minute broadcast, we may not be able to continue the show.
So I'd like you to give us your thoughts.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Let's start the discussion.
First of all, we received your survey earlier and we'd like to talk about it.
We received your question, "What do you think is lacking in SKE now?"
First of all, Chikako.
Yes.
What do you think is lacking in SKE now?
What I think is lacking in SKE now is the extinction and individual fame.
Yes.
When I watch SKE documentaries in the past, I used to think that everyone was passionate and passionate about something.
I used to think that everyone wanted to be in the center.
But now, I think it's good for both the team and the group to work together in a peaceful and friendly way.
But when I personally ask who is there, I often hear the name of my seniors who have graduated, and there are many attractive girls in the group now, so I hope that each girl's name will sell more.
By the way, Hara-chan, you also wrote something similar, right?
Yes, I am from Fukuoka Prefecture, so when I actually come to Nagoya, I have more opportunities to see SK48 than when I was in Fukuoka, and of course, Nagoya people are very warm and supportive of me because I am active in Nagoya, and I get a lot of work in Nagoya, but I hope that people other than Nagoya will know more about SK48.
What do you think about popularity now?
Before, I heard on TV that the name Akari Suda, who is now a graduate student, is more well-known than the group name SK48, and I hope that more young people will know about the group itself.
By the way, Mori-san, I don't think you've been on SK48's show recently, but what do you think about the recognition of SK48 now, objectively looking at it from Tokyo?
Well, I also worked with SK48 a little while ago, so of course I know the group itself now, but certainly I don't know that much about each one of them, to be honest.
But even for me, I think that's probably the case for the general public.
I think Mirei-chan is working as a personal model among people who don't know SK48, but is there a lot of things that you can't tell that you're SK48?
Well, there are quite a lot of people who know our names, but I don't think they know each member's name or what kind of songs we have now.
Were there any things you personally did that you didn't know?
To be honest, we lived by the flow.
I think it's not just about what we can do with these members, but I don't think we can give up because we can't do it, so I think it's different.
I think it's important for other fans to know, but I don't know if everyone who knows SK48 is recognized, cheered on, or likes it.
I think the results will change little by little, so I think it's important for us to know what we have and what we can do.
I think it would be nice if we could compete there even now, even in an era where we were selling well.
If you have any comments after listening to this woman, please.
I'm very convinced and I'm going to try various things to gain new fame.
That's my motivation. Arai Yuki-chan is doing pro- wrestling and there are actually pro-wrestling fans coming to the concert.
And Fukushi Nao is an entertainer and is active.
Looking at that motivation in detail, I had a lot of impatience that I had to do something.
But now that I'm listening to Minano-san's story, I feel like I can't do anything if I don't leave my SK work at home first.
I realized that I had to take care of my job first.
I don't think we don't care about it, we all care about it and have fun.
I'm sure it's not wrong, but it's only "chan-chan" and it's not really stuck in someone's memory.
If you want to do various things and want to gain more fame, this may be an old idea, but sometimes doing bad things is one way.
To be honest, Suga Akari-san said that she was amazing because she did something really embarrassing as a girl.
Minano was also a heavyweight.
That's right.
She was very weak.
You can say no, but in the end it led to the result.
Because you thought you were heavy and fat, you became delicious.
I think everyone has that.
I think it's one way not to miss it when the opportunity comes.
I think this is the first time you've met 10 or 11 people who are talking in front of you.
Do you have anything you want to do or talk about now?
I really want to do it.
I'm still in junior high school, so I don't do much.
As I get older, I think there will be more things I can do.
I want to be someone who can do anything.
Will you ride a seesaw?
I will.
I'm not the type of person who can ride a seesaw.
In Minano's case, I wonder if we'll be okay.
It's rude.
Including that, it was interesting.
I'm glad.
Singing and dancing are cute.
Maybe I want you to be a fan.
Unexpectedly, that girl was caught.
The human nature of that girl is funny.
Unexpectedly, you became a fan of that kind of girl.
How about you, Ami-chan?
I used to live in Kanto, so I watched a lot of Kanto programs.
I still have a lot of memories of Minarun-san's season.
There were many interesting people and cute people.
I learned about each of their characters and wanted to meet Minarun-san.
I feel that variety is one of the reasons.
I want to cherish each of them.
Who do you think has the strongest variety among the members of SKE?
Between the members, there were two castings for SKE.
If you give results here, it may affect the growth of the group.
Who will be late?
When I did "burikko zeropoji", I was impressed with Kaho Sato.
Her character is very solid.
No matter where the story goes, it is impressive that she runs one step towards it.
I think Kaho Sato is very strong.
I'm sorry. It was a very tricky question.
Why don't you say it yourself?
You say you want fame now, but you don't take risks yourself. To be honest, I like what I'm doing these days.
One of the things that the current members lack is confidence.
When I was asked who I like, I felt the kindness of recommending someone other than me.
But as a talent, it's hard, isn't it? If you don't come out there.
I think that's self-producing, but each group has its own culture.
I've been involved in 48 for a long time, but I think it was a culture of "me, me," so I was surprised.
I think it's a great opportunity for me to say that I can do this as a variety show.
Is there a member you can say you're confident in?
I'm confident in my performance.
What's the basis?
The basis is that I used to like idols, and I wanted to be an idol.
I've been learning dance for the fifth grade of elementary school where you can join an idol group.
I've been learning dance so that I can deal with various genres.
Even after I joined S.K., it took me a lot of life to fill my seniors' holes like under.
I'm confident.
I'm going to see it.
Yes, please come.
It's a must-see.
Oh, yes.
By the way, I was happy that you raised your hand without hesitation.
Yes.
What makes you confident?
I don't know if this will lead to being an idol, but I'm a fourth-year college student now.
I've never said it before, but I'm studying architecture at college.
I also want a weapon that no one else has in this group of people called S.K.48.
I'm still going to Kyushu University without quitting.
I don't think there are many idols who are learning architecture.
I hope I can make use of that part.
The gap is amazing.
I thought you were a college student because you were a smiling and gentle girl.
Honestly.
That's right.
Now, we've received a questionnaire asking what we should do to liven up S.K.
What do you think is lacking and what do you think is necessary?
But let's leave confidence aside.
I think everyone has a feeling of wanting to improve this group.
I thought it would be nice if we could send it out with more confidence.
That said, the team members have recently finished their new performances and each team is receiving new performances.
I thought it would be nice if we could fly out of the theater and perform in various regions and in the theater of the sister group.
You've been saying that for a long time, but you can't make it happen.
Yes, it's not easy.
But we actually go to talk to adults and so on.
But when we get real answers like, "Can't we do it with our own strength?" we end up losing.
It's very frustrating.
Like Chikako-san said, I think the strength of SKE is theater performances.
I think I want to make them very important.
When you think of 48, I think having your own theater is very strong.
I don't think I've had such a wonderful opportunity to get such new performances every year.
I think SKE's new theater started and moved to a new stage.
First of all, we want to liven up SKE's 48 theater.
I think that by getting a lot of people to watch it, we'll be able to perform in 48 theaters all over the world.
I hope more and more people will know that SKE has started a new theater performance.
The other day, K-2 performed with NIGHT TEMPO at IDOL FEST.
I'm sorry, I couldn't go see it.
How did you feel when you did it?
Did it work?
Well...
What I was really frustrated about was...
Like...
After we finished our overture and went on stage...
Some of our fans laughed at us.
I was really frustrated about that.
I think it's arrogant of idols to shine and give them courage and energy.
Besides that, we were trying to show a new K-2 by performing separately.
When I heard people laughing...
I was really frustrated.
I was wondering if they would accept it.
But we don't want to lose.
We have confidence in our performance.
So we want more people to accept "timeless park"
I hope we can spread "timeless park" more.
But I hope we can get revenge someday.
I hope we can be a team that can do it.
I know I said something bad this time, but...
When SK went to foreign festivals several times, I thought their way of fighting for idol festivals was wrong.
In fact, SK has been doing things that only SK fans can do.
If you're an outside idol, you'll be asked to do something like this.
Not everyone can cope with one way of hosting.
Because you usually do too much, don't you have any worries when you show it to outside idol fans?
I'll know when I go out, but it's very difficult and other idols are used to it.
SK has only done solo concerts so far.
If you suddenly go out to talk with other idols or go to an idol festival, you suddenly can't do anything and you're at the bottom.
But that doesn't mean you don't have enough skills.
I didn't like it last time, so let's do it again.
Even if you make it a set list, there are various idols like this, so you have to find out if this set list is really good or not.
If you go to an idol festival, you have to find a purpose for going out.
SK has been going out to the most difficult places recently.
Mori-san, you've been doing a lot of things since you were a major idol.
But I think you all have skills, so you don't have enough awareness of what kind of customers are there.
I know a lot because I'm in the TV industry, but when I do a Sunday afternoon show, I make it for the customers watching it on Sundays.
When I make a program in the middle of the night, I make it for the customers in the middle of the night.
For example, if you go to an idol festival where idols go out for days, you have to find out what kind of customers are there.
I think that not only fans of SK come there, but also fans of all kinds come there.
So if you think, "Oh, that's what kind of customers are there," I think the content of the MC there will of course change.
I think it will change more if you have an MC who is aware of the customers there.
For today's members, Chikako and Ayamero are in a position to say their opinions.
I don't think that research is enough, but have you ever done it? I'm sorry to say it one step at a time, but I'd like to ask Ayamero as well.
I was really stuck.
Because I wasn't aware of it, and when I asked for an MC's advice, I had to divide it into an MC for the theater and an MC for the festival, but I couldn't divide it properly.
And when I came out, I felt that I wasn't this MC.
Whether it's a performance or an MC, we all talked about it and I thought I had to challenge it according to that place.
Well, I've been doing it because I thought I'd make the same mistake over and over again.
After all, I think it's quite a real frustration when you say it.
I was frustrated when I was looking at it as a fan.
It's out of time, but do you have anything you'd like to say about the future of SK?
Are you satisfied with SK48 now?
I'm not.
Why?
Of course, there are many things we can do more and more.
What I think of SK as a whole is...
I really want to be on a singing show.
Of course, there is something I want to do now as a selection member.
But what I want to do most as a selection member is...
My hometown is Kanto, so...
My friends who told me, "Do your best" when I became a member of SK.
My grandparents who live in my hometown.
I want them to see me doing my best.
Of course, I want them to recognize that I'm an idol.
Of course, I want them to support me.
I think it's one of the fields that spreads the word that SK is the best now.
Even if I release a single now, I don't think there are many people who will appear on a singing show.
I want to be an idol who can appear on a singing show a lot.
I want to be SK.
How about you, Mika? Is there anything you're not satisfied with?
As for me...
In this single, I'm the only one in the group where Akari Suda graduated from.
Her previous work...
I've been on a lot of TV shows and stuff, but what's changed is me and you, Mr. Suda, so there's too much difference.
But I don't have any personal fame or anything, so I joined as one of the selection members.
That's why I want to be an SKE that can be on TV shows and stuff like that.
When Mirei-chan was in the center of the song, she didn't have much opportunity.
If she had been an SKE five years ago, she would have been recognized as a center.
How did you feel when you thought it would be difficult to be a center in such a situation?
It was also a center after Ms. Matsui Jurina graduated, so I was very anxious.
But I feel like I'm trying to bring out a different charm from the previous SKE four-eight.
I thought I had to do my best there, and I wasn't very confident at the time, but now I'm doing my best with a little confidence.
Would you like to be an SKE center again?
I want to do it again...
I want to do it again.
The last SKE center I was in was "heart and flower"
At that time, I was confident and I think my performance was a little better, and now I think there are a lot of things that I can send out, so I want to do it again.
But one last thing I want to tell you is that I think you are in a very fortunate environment.
After all, you have your own theater and your own performance, so I think you should put more effort into it and do as much as you want.
If you think like that, I'm sure that in today's world, only passionate people can receive it, but I think you all have it, so I think you'll be fine, so do your best.
Thank you very much.
Unfortunately, it's time for the first group.
Thank you all for your hard work.
Thank you very much.
Next time...
I don't think "heart and flower" (heart and flower) needs to change.
What can I say...
Minami has a good sense of humor, and she's not in the spotlight, and she only has a theater...
If it doesn't get better by now, I think it's pretty bad, so you have to be more aware of it.
I was angry normally.