AISubs v3.8.2
Now, it's started! Scorpism!
We are White Scorpion!
This program is about two years since their debut.
They listen to stories from idols and senior idols who are still unknown.
They look back at themselves for the future.
Documentary variety show.
It's like my child's age.
This time, I will talk to ex-akb48 Mariko Shinoda.
When I was in my twenties or teens, unlike the way I grew up, I often had difficulties and conflicts with people I didn't know.
Isn't it the same for marriage life?
Professor Akimoto Yasushi, who is also a producer of HOA.
Akibo-san told me to become a sponge.
First of all, I asked the members what AKB48 was like.
If you turn on the TV, you'll definitely see AKB48.
I have an image of being admired or sparkling.
I've loved AKB since I was five years old.
It's the first song I bought a CD for myself, so I was able to have an AKB theater the next day of my birthday.
I remember being told that I was about to be born.
My dad really loves Shinoda-san.
I have a memory of telling my mom to make me Bob.
Shinoda Mariko.
She didn't make the first audition of AKB48 in 2005, but she didn't make the finalists.
After that, she worked in a cafe that was closed to the theater, and gained popularity there.
As a first-class student, she joined regular members.
And for seven years, she was active and supported the golden age of members.
Shinoda, Momo, Ace and Hanna are going to talk with her.
I'm happy.
What's up?
I love you.
Really? I'm about to cry.
I've been watching you since I was little.
Thank you.
You're making me cry.
Can I ask you a question?
[PH] Sure.
Mr. Shinoda, you have this character called Mariko-sama, which you have a strong presence in.
If you could tell me how you found your own character?
I also...
Until joining the group called AKB, I had a lot of older friends and seniors in school.
I was an older character, but when I joined the group, I became the oldest.
It's like taking care of an older sister who has to be an older sister character.
It's the first time I've been a character in a group.
I didn't come up with the name Mariko-sama myself.
A fan called me and that's how I got the name.
I didn't make up this character myself.
I guess I was just acting from above.
And that's how I got the name Mariko-sama.
I think there are times when you can find new characters in activities.
Shinoda's advice.
There is no need to panic because the roles in the group become characters or fans add them to activities.
And the topic is about the major event of AKB, general election.
How did you feel about the general election, Hoaspi members?
It's tough.
I think it's quite memorable.
Now, when I think about it after becoming an idol, I thought I was doing a good job.
What did you think when you decided to run for general election first?
AKB's concept wasn't election from the beginning, but deciding members by popular vote was the concept of idol group.
So everyone knew from the beginning that there was a voting system and applied for it, so I never imagined it would be like an election all over Japan.
At that time, of course, there were some difficulties, but I enjoyed it.
Shinoda is in third place in the first election, ahead of Atsuko Maeda and Yuko Oshima.
How did you feel when you came in third place?
I was happy.
I think I was recognized for some parts.
At that time, I was quite tall and had a back or side of my body,
but when I was in third place, I started to move forward in the heavy rotation song of Yuko Center's Achan and Watashi.
At that time, I was very happy and I felt very happy that my position would change with my own efforts.
You give speeches and such, don't you?
Do you think about it in advance?
I decide my thoughts to some extent in advance, but I only know the ranking at that time.
So even if I was in first place in the ranking, there is a possibility of fifth place.
So I prepare various patterns.
If it's a fifth place in the interim announcement, it could be lower than fifth place or higher than fifth place.
I put in only the words that I've been working hard for a year or something like that
and I asked for that ranking and said what I really thought at the time.
It was half and half.
And here's what I want to ask you because you're the center's Hanna.
I think I was in Kami Seven, but I think I'm standing in the front and I'm feeling more pressure than I am, so I wanted to ask you.
What made you choose the name?
I happened to be ranked low in Kami7, so I was given the name Kami7.
But my fans gave me the name because I couldn't lower my rank.
But that's a difficult thing to do.
I fought against pressure and stuff, but I guess I tried not to be too conscious of it.
I think there were Atsuko Komaeda and Yoko Oshima, who often competed for first and second place.
Did you have any feelings of rivalry or feeling like you couldn't lose to them?
Well, at the time, I was an absolute invalid center, so I think everyone was anxious about being a center.
I think it's an atmosphere that doesn't want to be a center.
But one day, Mr. Akimoto told me that people who don't aim for first place can't be third or fourth.
He said that people who aim for third or fourth are lower.
He was angry at me for my goal setting in the first place.
I see.
I was afraid of being in first place emotionally.
I think I had a lot of breaks in me.
Numatically, it was overwhelming.
Acchan was a little different.
There are people in the world who exist just for being there.
I think that presence was overwhelming.
Those who do not aim for first place cannot be third or fourth place?
We've been struggling with this for a year, and we've been wondering about what to do with our goals for this year.
There were quite a lot of things like that, so I knew that there was something like this as a word of Akimoto sensei.
We have to go to the Tokyo Dome and go to the world from there.
We have to change our mindsets so that we can say it with a proud heart.
And the story is about another big event of AKB, the rock-paper-scissors tournament.
We won the center position in the rock-paper-scissors tournament, didn't we?
Yes.
Did you feel happy at that time?
You were so happy back then.
I thought I'd only get a chance and become a center back then.
At first, I thought I wouldn't win.
But I started winning from the middle.
And when I won, I didn't think about shooting.
I felt like I had to go for the center.
I didn't feel like I was going to lose that day.
I didn't have any.
Even if I wanted to do it, my hand would be like bread.
My body was like...
Wow!
I was like, did I win?
Can you tell me how you felt when you first did the center?
I was calm at the time.
On the contrary if it is a center chosen by selection
I wonder what the fans think and I am worried that they will be beaten
but I won with rock-paper-scissors
so I think it will be a good center.
I don't think anyone will complain about it.
I was such a strong person, but I had a lot of worries about achieving millions of sales in a row and not achieving millions of sales.
And my name is Mariko from above, so I was worried about what to do if I could do a sales campaign or something like that.
It was a time when I was worried.
This is my first CD I bought.
Really?
Thank you. Were you born?
Yes, I was born, but I saw it when I was little.
Thank you for that one.
Does AKB have a conversation or something like that within the members?
We often talk with each other as members, but it's difficult to put everything together.
You've been through a lot of trouble for the past two years, so you must have had some annoying experiences.
Like cleaning up the garbage.
Yes, that's right.
Even when we're talking about trivial things.
There are hundreds of people in a team, but there are dozens of people in a team.
Now, people have different values and I think it's attractive and nice for their age.
But in your twenties or tens, unlike the way you grew up,
you might have had a hard time not understanding each other.
I've had quite a few clashes, but I think it's better to talk honestly as friends.
On the contrary, I think it's harder to hide yourself and try to do well without really saying what you think.
Since we're together in this kind of relationship,
if we have time to think about what we think or learn about something new,
I think that group will also enjoy it.
Wow, you got me.
But there are also things like garbage and things like that.
For example, some people want to give up later, and some people want to give up now.
Even a little idea of how you think can shift from a little thing.
For example, you say something, but you don't do it.
That kind of thing happens, too.
Isn't it the same with marriage?
It's hard if you don't think you're that kind of person.
If it's not life-threatening or annoying, I guess it's fine.
She's very open-minded.
It's very easy for me.
Shinoda's advice.
If you have a room in your heart, you can accept others' opinions that are different from yours.
Next, she consulted...
How can we increase the number of people?
It's really bad that we can't fill in that space.
About the gathering that has been a problem for some time...
We had a release event the other day.
Our goal was to get 1,000 people to join us for that release event.
Congratulations!
Thank you!
Congratulations!
I think our task now is to continue calling people who are about one thousand people.
Is there anything you can do to get people who came to the live show once or those who are even a little interested in you to come to the live show again?
But I think that 1,000 people who came once should have been satisfied with the live show and thought it was fun
so I would like to go again if there is another live show.
On the contrary, you want to tell your friends what you like, right?
If you tell one person, you'll get 2,000 more people.
I just thought 2,000 people would come next time.
Wow!
That's how you think positively.
I think we should set our goal of 2,000 people for the next event.
I think it'll probably happen.
Wow!
We were thinking both positively and negatively.
But we are human and they are human, too.
I think sincerity and hard work are transmitted.
Did you enjoy the 1000 people live?
We enjoyed it.
It's definitely transmitted, so I'm sure everyone who came here enjoyed it.
So if you work hard to liven up this group,
there will definitely be people who understand it and increase the number of fans.
I think it's very important to value each activity.
Shinoda says,
If you work hard, your fans will understand you and call you new fans.
Next, that story that spins with a broken goal.
We, WHITE SCORPION, are now aiming for the Tokyo Dome.
But Mariko Chinoda is standing in front of the Tokyo Dome.
AKB48, after 6 years of formation, has realized their goal of the Tokyo Dome.
They attracted 150,000 people in 3 days.
How did you feel when you stood in front of the Tokyo Dome?
[PH] AKB Theater
It's a theater where 250 people can enter, but it didn't get crowded at all and there were only about 20 people.
Since then, I've had a goal of filling up the Tokyo Dome, so it's reckless, isn't it?
I felt like I was doing it at first, but as I went to the theater every day, there were days when the theater was full.
I thought maybe this would fill up Tokyo Dome, too.
It took six years for me to build Tokyo Dome for the first time in my life.
What I've seen so far is what I see on the stage.
The penlight has a sense of unity.
I thought I'd keep it burning because I might never be able to see the atmosphere that everyone is looking at.
And not only us, but also fans were cheering for us.
There was a sense of unity in the fans' feelings that this Tokyo Dome would be planted.
I think it was very free of feeling because we all had feelings that we had created together.
And I'm like, am I okay?
So I'm glad it was an idol group that could create with fans in a group called AKB.
Why was Ace crying?
Oh, I know!
It's a different angle!
I imagined the scenery and thought about what the Tokyo Dome would be like, which I worked hard with everyone.
It's kind of black.
I thought it would be amazing if we could make a Tokyo Dome with black daylight.
When I first imagined it, I cried and said it was amazing.
And the story is about AKB Hoaspi's producer Yasushi Akimoto.
We've never met Yasushi Akimoto-sensei before.
Oh, really? Yasushi Akimoto-group.
Yes, that's right.
What advice did you get from him?
What was the most memorable episode for you?
What was the most memorable phrase you've ever heard from him?
Yasushi Akimoto's advice for Yasushi Akimoto
There is a saying that I myself was told by Nakiboshi-san that remains.
I liked to produce myself.
My hairstyle is like this, my costume is like this, and my makeup is like this.
I was the type of person who decided everything myself.
But what Nakiboshi-san told me was to become a sponge.
For example, cake sponges are decorated with strawberries, chocolate, and absorb various things.
It's fun for everyone to see how people decorate and make different flavors.
So you're the material, and you're the sponge.
So we leave that to the makeup artist and stylist.
It's important for us to discover things we don't know about ourselves.
So we're told by professionals to leave that to us.
So I'd lose something I knew I could do, and I'd leave it up to others.
When I came here, I realized that colors like this and hair and makeup like this would look good on me.
I love the phrase,
''become a sponge,' because a new worldview has spread.
What's more, we learned an impressive episode from Mariko Shinoda.
I started working as a cafe worker at first,
but when about 20 fans were gathering outside of the theater while having tea,
Yasushi Akimoto came and asked me,
''How should I make AKB?''
I asked 20 people every day what kind of events and things like this were fun at akb48 and noted it down.
I think it was quite realistic.
There is a flower house event, and flower houses are tour tours with fans.
So, I think AKB48's voice is interesting because it shapes fans' voices.
And she told us a lot of information about Yasushi Akimoto.
I'll tell you my favorite thing about you.
I'm curious!
You're a jagarico.
What?!
What flavor is it?
It's salad flavor.
Ah, simple!
For your birthday, let's make a tower of Jackalli-ko and celebrate it together.
I love it so much!
I didn't know about it!
If you meet me, I'll be happy if you give me Jackalli-ko salad flavor.
I think you like it now, too.
You're nodding, right?
You love Jackalli-ko, don't you?
If I could meet Kimoto sensei, I'd build a tower that I've never seen before.
Maybe we could form a Jagarico alliance.
And about the sister group...
When the sister group of AKB, like SKE, came out...
What did you feel?
We're not the little sisters of SCORPION...
What did you feel when you did it?
[PH] How did you feel when you created Escape?
When Escape was released, I was happy.
I thought it would be interesting if it was released in Nagoya and all over the country.
The good thing about being able to raise the 48 group from various angles is...
I think that Scorpion's little sister will probably give birth to more sympathy effects.
I think it's honestly a very happy thing.
I think we have a little bit of a rivalry.
I think it's also a good thing for each other to get excited about.
We were thinking a lot about what we would do if we were overtaken or if the fans of white scorpion went there.
Well, that's true, but there are so many more Japanese people.
It's okay.
If you say calmly, it's okay.
It's not only here that is moving.
Maybe there are still people around here.
Maybe you should aim for this area.
It's a little busy to deal with this area.
These 1,000 fans.
I'm trying to get more and more people to know me.
On the contrary, if it becomes popular from now on, you may get to know me in addition.
I think it might be good to go with that kind of perspective.
It's hard to get each other's backs.
Yes, it is.
From beginning to end.
They have a positive and relaxed feeling.
They are cool because of Japanese people.
I was thinking about how much I can reach idol fans.
But now, there are people who are not idol fans in the world.
The earth is wide.
There is Japan and there is the world.
Next episode is about idol fans' scenery.
Learn the truth of the fan from big guy