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Be Stellar!
Thank you for coming again.
Thank you for having me.
Do you remember the retro game shop in Akihabara?
Yes, I do.
Do you remember? Beep, Akihabara store.
I learned about the history of computers there.
Yes, I remember.
You did a flip for me.
At that time, you couldn't actually touch it.
That's right.
This time, we prepared a retro computer selected by the show.
Wow!
It is...
Topaso Retro PC Museum!
Wow! It's a museum!
That's why they don't let us in yet.
Topaso Retro PC Museum
Good evening. I'm Sato Rika of Nogizaka46.
The Under Live Tour will finally start next week.
I think it's going to be a hot show, so let's enjoy it together.
I'll do my best!
This time, it's a special project.
Topaso Retro PC Museum.
Three of the best computers of all time have come together.
Let's learn about the amazing points and innovative parts of the time.
Excuse me.
It's the one in the library.
Thank you for helping us out with "Beep" again.
Thank you for having me.
We have selected computers for you.
We have chosen computers for you.
We have prepared computers that have changed history.
"Beep" will handle retro PCs and games again.
Let's start with the first one.
This is "nec"'s "pc8801".
pc8801
I think I heard of it before.
It's a 8-bit computer.
8-bit?
It's a computer for games and it's sold well.
8-bit.
What is "bit"?
"bit" is 1-bit.
When you say "PC", you might think it's smart.
But you can only remember 1-bit as 0 or 1.
Not even 1.
In general, it's easy to understand.
There is a box with 0 or 1 inside of it.
I see.
That's "pc8801".
pc8801
That's "pc8801".
Excuse me.
The original PCs they assembled were 64-bit, but
the 8-bit PCs at the time
were only 2-by-8 and 256-threaded.
Compared to the current 64-bit PCs,
this was much smaller.
On the other hand, of course, there were some amazing points.
One of the amazing things about this is...
I think we talked about it earlier...
how many colors you can use it in.
Right now we are choosing colors from hundreds of millions of colors.
But we only use 8 colors at the same time.
We only use 8 colors in one screen.
It was difficult to express, but it is reflected beautifully with the power of creators.
I would like you to see it.
Oh, it's here.
Wow, it's cute.
It's moving.
Wow!
It's a little scary.
Is it okay?
What is it?
Is it a game?
Oh, it's a game.
It's a game. It's an opening screen for a game.
Oh, I see.
At the time, computers were not common like they are now.
It was more for playing games.
Then, even at work, computers were not popular.
No, we only had electronic keyboards and solo keyboards.
Oh, I see!
I don't know.
So, let's play a famous game that was incredibly popular at the time, "Ys".
Here we go.
"Ys", "Ys", "Ys"!
Wow, you are making up words today.
I'm getting used to it.
The game we are going to play is the first action RPG game by Ys.
The story is about a boy who goes on an adventure to save his country.
Wow! I'm the red one!
As I said before, the game has 8 colors.
I didn't know that.
It's so beautiful.
When you scroll up and down, the background changes, right?
It was relatively smooth.
Smooth?
Yes.
The colors also had shadows.
I thought you were doing well.
Oh, you're right.
There's an enemy, so...
It's an island.
You should do it well.
Is there an enemy like this?
There's someone who's not human.
Are you going to fight?
I'll hit you in the head.
You'll hit me in the head?
What? Did you lose?
Yes, I lost.
Why?
You'll hit me in the head and swing a sword?
No, I'll hit you in the head.
You'll hit me in the head?
So, you'll lose one day?
No, I'll swing a little and hit you in the head.
That's difficult!
What can you do other than playing games?
If you compare it with your current computer,
you can do things that are similar and things you can't do.
Oh, you're serious!
You can't do the internet, but you can communicate on your computer.
You can.
You can communicate on your computer?
You can connect your phone to your computer and communicate on your phone.
But it costs a lot of money to do that.
For example, devices for listening to CDs were also released later, but they were also very expensive.
If you just play games, it's not that expensive, right?
That's right.
You only need this body.
I see.
So, this was about 200,000 yen.
But...
It was about 200,000 yen at the time,
so I think it's close to buying a full-spec gaming computer now.
Let's turn off the power.
Okay.
Press this green button.
You'll hit me in the head?
You'll hit me in the head.
I see.
You'll hit me in the head.
It turned off.
I'm getting nervous.
I see.
I haven't saved it yet.
Is there a proper shutdown procedure?
There is no shutdown.
No shutdown?
Finger down.
I'm scared.
Finger down.
Finally, a commemorative photo with a retro PC.
Oh, good.
Retro-ish.
Retro-ish. It's not retro.
Next, to the second computer.
The second one is PC-9801.
9801.
The one before?
The line increased.
Here you are.
The line increased.
I think this one is 8-bit earlier.
No, it's 16-bit.
Oh, it increased.
This one has an older image.
It's thicker.
That's right.
This one is a PC for gyms when it first came out.
Oh, I see.
The number of uses increased, too.
Because it's 16-bit, of course you can do more things.
How much will it increase?
You can process many things at high speed.
You can process things quickly.
Yes, you can.
However, the price went up.
Oh, no.
This one was about 200,000 yen at the time.
This one is 200,000 yen.
And this one is 390,000 yen.
What?! The price doubled!
It doubled.
Oh, no.
At that time, 390,000 yen was...
How much is it now?
It's about 700,000 to 800,000 yen.
It's expensive.
700,000 to 800,000 yen is expensive.
But the price is different.
And you can't make sounds with it.
Oh, you can't.
You can't make sounds with it.
You can't make sounds with it, but...
If you want to make sounds with it, it's expensive.
I see.
The price went up, but the 16-bit and performance increased dramatically.
The PC-9800 series, which was so popular that it was called a national flag.
How many people have this at home?
Oh, this is...
I brought a computer that was introduced in the city hall as much as it is said to be a national flag.
There weren't many in general households.
In general households...
Well, there may have been a few shops that already had it.
That's about it.
Then...
I'd like to say it if it came home, but I'd rather not say it.
I'd rather not say it.
There are more people who come every day.
Oh, I think I'll get a kiss.
That's right.
But in a way, there's nothing in it, right?
Well, that's right.
If it's like this, there's nothing in it.
I buy it.
I buy an app.
Oh, you buy it.
It's like an iPhone that doesn't have any apps in it.
Wow!
iPhone that doesn't even take pictures?
That's right. It doesn't take pictures.
Does that mean you have a status?
Already.
No, but...
But I can say for sure that this is the most sold app.
Oh, it's sold!
Even so...
That's amazing.
What's so attractive about it?
Well...
There's a lot of history behind this.
I've been using the same software for a long time.
You've been using it for a long time?
That's right.
Have you been using it for a long time?
I've been using it for a long time. I've really been using it for a long time.
Oh, I see.
So there are still many factories that use this.
But you see it in dramas and stuff, right?
That's right.
That's true.
On the other hand of being effective...
Since it's been used for a long time, demand for it has been high.
And there seems to be other reasons for it.
It's becoming more and more high-performance.
Like modern gaming PCs...
Many people modify them.
Oh, you can do that?
Yes, you can.
It's like a real modification.
It was popular at the time.
How fast can you do it?
It's like running a gaming PC.
I see.
Like modern gaming computers,
it was also popular that you could customize it to your liking.
When you start it up...
9801, this is what I'm talking about.
Would you like to hear it?
Is it a sound?
Yes, it is.
It's a starting sound.
Did you hear it?
I'm sorry, I made a mistake.
You made me listen a lot.
I'm sorry.
9801, this is what I'm talking about.
Would you like to hear it?
Ping pong?
I heard it.
Is it only this?
Is it only this computer?
Don't you have other computers?
Yes, we do.
Oh, you do?
That's a good question.
There was this "ping pong", right?
Yes.
The speed of the CPU at this time was "ping pong".
It gets faster and faster.
"Ping pong", you mean?
"Ping pong" gets faster.
You get a better sense of it.
"Ping pong".
"Ping pong"?
"Ping pong" was the latest and last one.
"Ping pong", you mean?
Wow, you know a lot.
It gets faster and faster.
Does it make you smarter?
The sound of the computer.
You can tell by the sound.
She's trying very hard.
So, if you hear the sound, you can tell what year it is?
Yes, it's useful.
Wow, that's amazing.
Isn't this your specialty?
Yes, it is.
It's my specialty.
Wow.
By the way, this is like a desktop computer now.
The screen that opens first.
Oh, yes, yes.
Is it a home screen?
Yes, it is.
It's a home screen, a start screen.
Is it?
Yes.
Do you have a mouse, too?
Of course we do.
You do?
We do have a mouse, but...
You can use the Taiyo app.
Taiyo app?
But I think it sold the most at the time.
I think it's because you could do a lot of things with it.
But it's simple.
It's like a perfect combination of these two.
That's right.
I bought this and this.
You bought it?
I bought it.
I bought this and this.
600,000 yen.
No, no, no.
I went to Akihabara and looked for a cheap used one and bought it.
I see.
Yes, and I lowered it so you can hear the sound.
You cut it into pieces.
No, no, no.
And then Hayashi...
"Nufu"?
What is this?
"Nufu"?
- It's a different hiragana. - It's a different hiragana.
- It's katakana. - What is it?
- Yes, yes, that's right. - "Nufu"?
"Nufu"?
Please take "nufu".
You're obsessed with "nufu".
- That said, Hayashi, if you look at this keyboard often... - "hachihachi".
- It's fixed. - That's right.
- What is "fixed"? - It's like this.
- It's so easy to understand. - Shift.
- Look. - It's easy to understand.
- It's easy to understand.
Control is here.
- That's right. - It's not "ctrl".
- It's not "ctrl".
- It's almost the same as this one. - It's "screen shift".
It's easy to understand.
And the right one is a little harder.
That's right.
- This one is easier to understand. - When you're looking for a gaming PC or a keyboard...
- The one you like. - This one is closer to Kubai's computer.
With that said, they took commemorative photos on this computer as well.
After this, items that changed their computers appeared one after another.
- Can you hold this for me for a second? - This? Is it a book?
- No, it's a manual. - A manual?
- That's cool! - That's cool!
- There's a lot of stuff here. - There's a lot of stuff!
The show's original game "Genpato" is selling well for 980 yen!
We'll also be introducing our impressions of the show, so please give it a try!
"Zansho".
"Zansho"! Wow! I thought for a second what it was, and it was "zansho".
It's still a little summery, but it's a calm color.
Cute.
It's a little knit-like.
"Kisetsusakidori".
Nice, isn't it? It's a fashionable pattern.
Autumn. Autumn color. Autumn pattern.
It's got earrings, too.
That's right.
Not earrings.
Yes.
You debuted with earrings, didn't you?
Yes.
Fashionable.
Aya-chan and Hayashi and I are very symmetrical.
"Shoka".
It's like that, but isn't it a little retro?
I chose a color that you don't usually see in this outfit.
Thank you very much for everything.
Yes.
"Toupaso".
"Retro PC Museum".
Before we go to the third computer, let me introduce something related to computers that may have changed history at the time.
First of all...
Microsoft's Windows 95.
It came out.
Speaking of the Internet.
Proper Internet is possible.
You can do it easily.
That's the innovative part of this.
However, there are many people who say, "If you buy this, you can use the Internet."
But you don't have a computer.
Oh, I see.
In the first place.
You can't use it without the main body.
That's right.
In a funny story, I asked an electrician for the Internet.
If you buy this, you can use the Internet, right?
I had a little trouble with that.
The release of Windows 95 caused computers to explode in popularity.
However, at the time, there seemed to be inconveniences compared to now.
Is this an instruction manual?
I can't read it.
Wait a minute.
There are a lot of things like textbooks.
There are a lot of things.
It says "before you become a servant"!
Wow, it makes you read it all.
And there is an important OS inside of it.
Wow, what?
Wait, what is this?
This?
It's a robot!
If you don't put all of them in, Windows 95 won't work.
You mean you have to put them in one by one?
Let's do our best.
This is bad.
What?
Compared to now, there were a lot of inconveniences.
But it changed history for sure.
So, this is a commemorative photo taken by Ayatee of the same age.
And there is one more.
It's an eye mask!
It's cute!
The design is really cute.
It's cute!
There were about five colors at the time.
Wow, you can change it!
And every year, there is a new empty case.
Oh, it's the same as mobile phones.
Does Apple become fashionable?
Apple suddenly became fashionable.
Why?
What happened?
Well, the president changed.
To the famous Jobs.
Oh, Jobs!
And the keyboard is a little transparent.
The mouse is cute!
What shape is it?
There is only one button.
Let me touch it.
It's just a normal mouse.
Is it the same if you press right and left?
No.
No?
No, it's just one button.
Inconvenient! Inconvenient!
It's not inconvenient.
When you turn on the first iMac...
I know it.
This is the one I have.
I see.
The sound I know is...
I know it.
Oh!
It's "shutdown", isn't it?
No, it's not.
That's it for "computer-related things that changed history".
Now, let's move on to the last retro computer.
This is an 8-bit computer with the same CPU as the 8801.
A lot of companies came up with the same idea of making their own computers.
The name of the company is "MSX".
It's like "Nogizaka".
An individual says it, and we say "Nogizaka".
It's the most popular game computer in the world.
That's about it.
Let's take a look at it.
Did you just touch it?
No, I didn't. It doesn't beep or anything like that.
Oh, it's soundproof.
It's soundproof.
This is the desktop menu screen.
You can do a lot of things with it.
For example, you can call someone.
You can leave a message for your mother.
That's very helpful.
And you can set a calendar.
Can I have a look?
It's 1987.
It's that day of the week.
Can you do it now?
I just tried it out.
Let's try it out.
While being taught how to do it, let's set a date for filming.
2020...
Oh, no!
2020!
23208.
And...
What about today?
August 20th!
Wow!
1987 January and 2024 August were coincidentally the same day and day.
Wow!
Let's change it by year.
No way!
Year...
Look, it's in English now.
That's right.
Showa 99!
Wow!
When did you say "showa"?
Until when?
So it's not like "what is it?" but...
But as a computer, it's an F8.
It contains the basic of a computer.
You can put commands in it and make games or draw lines.
Wow!
But from the beginning...
This is 30,000 yen.
It's 30,000 yen.
So, with this computer, you can play a game called "South Pole Adventure".
Press up and accelerate.
If you press up several times, it accelerates.
Wow!
What are you doing now?
You have to say it faster.
No way!
Wait a minute, please.
You have to get closer.
I can't tell if it's a leaf or a hole.
Wait, what are you doing?
Eh?
No, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.
Ah, maybe.
Eh, this is exciting.
This is amazing, it's so cute.
This is about a series of education that is about traveling to Antarctica and learning about the earth's name.
Oh, is that right?
Is that right?
It's mostly like this because it's a gaming computer.
Hmm.
Like learning math while playing.
That sounds fun.
That's it for the Retro PC Museum.
How was it for you three?
Touch it yourself.
2003 is kind of old.
It's a computer, isn't it?
2003...
It's kind of...
Anything is fine.
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The program will continue for three years, four years and more.
Please click on the "Like" button of TVer.
It was amazing.
I didn't think there were so many kinds of clips.
When I actually touched it, I got a lot of ideas.
And I asked a lot of questions.
I think I got to know a lot about the past.
Thank you very much.
Next time...
I got a title of "net meme expert"...
We invite special guests...
and learn about the history and culture of the internet world.
You guys are on another level!
Yes, I've seen it.
You're kidding, right?