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Thinking about the future of SK48.
Zero Poji. Not live debate.
This "Zero Poji" is a debate where 17 members gather and seriously talk about the future of SK48.
Previous debates were live broadcasts, but this time they will be recorded for three weeks.
It's an opening with a sense of tension.
Are all the members okay?
It's a little serious.
My face is a little bad.
Is it bad?
I can't say a word, but the members...
I'm worried about the members.
This program will also be broadcast four times.
Now, let's have a debate about the group's present and future.
The person who will watch over the debate is...
Japanese TV producer, Mouri Shinobu, who has been in charge of various 48-group programs.
Last year, he graduated from the group.
Former leader of Team Ketsu, Ovan Mira.
Supporting SK48 and 13 years old.
Comedy entertainer, Yurio Kachou Special.
And TV producer, Yusuke Takeraka.
These 21 people will have a debate, but...
The combination of the members will be decided by lottery.
Each of the three groups will show their feelings for SKE48 with their own feelings.
I wonder if we can't do it alone.
There are too many differences.
I want to be an idol who can appear in a lot of singing programs.
SKE48 ZERO POSITION
TEAM SPARTAN
Before we start the discussion, I would like to say that the recording time for this program is 60 minutes.
If we don't make appropriate comments or thoughts in 30 minutes of the program, we may not be able to continue broadcasting.
I hope you will continue to give us your thoughts.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Let's start the discussion.
First of all, we received your questionnaire in advance, so we will talk about it.
We asked you what you think is insufficient for SKE now.
First of all, Ms. Chikoko.
What do you think is insufficient?
What I think is insufficient is the extinction and individual fame.
This is connected, but if you look at the SKE members in the past, you can see the spirit of "everyone wants to go to the center" when you look at the documentary.
The members now have an atmosphere of trying to work together peacefully, for better or for worse.
I think it's great as a team or as a group.
When I asked who was there individually, I was often given the name of a senior who graduated, and there are many more attractive girls in the group now, so I want each member's name to sell more.
By the way, Hara-chan also wrote something similar.
I'm from Fukuoka Prefecture, so when I actually came to Nagoya, I had more opportunities to see SK48 than when I was in Fukuoka.
Of course, because we are active in Nagoya, people in Nagoya are very warm and supportive of us, and we get a lot of work in Nagoya.
Of course, there are many good things about it, but I hope that people other than Nagoya will know more about SK48.
What do you think about popularity now?
On TV before, I heard that the name Akari Suda, rather than the group name SK48, is more well- known now than the group name SK48.
I hope that more young people will know about the group itself, SKE.
By the way, Mori-san, I don't think you've been on a SKE show lately, but what do you think of the recognition of SKE?
It's been a little while since I worked with SKE.
Of course, I know about the SKE group itself, but I don't know much about each one of them.
But even for me, I think the general public knows more about SKE.
Mirei-chan, as an individual model, you work for people who don't know about SKE, but is there anything you can't tell them about SKE?
Well, there are a lot of people who know about SKE, but I don't think they know about each one of their names or what kind of songs they have now.
Did you have anything you did personally?
To be honest, we lived by the flow.
At the time of our debut, it was all about the momentum of the group and the extension of the flow.
I think it's not just about what we can do with these members, but I don't think we can give up because we can't do it.
I think it's important for everyone to know about SKE48, but I don't know if everyone knows about SKE48, whether or not they are recognized by everyone, whether or not they are supported, or whether or not they like it.
I think the result will change again, so I hope everyone will know about SKE48.
We were popular at that time, but we were competing with each other about how much results we could leave on this platform.
I hope we can keep doing what we are doing now.
Do you have any comments after listening to Ms. Ooba?
I'm very convinced and I'm going to try various things to gain new fame.
One of my motivations is that Ms. Arai Yuki plays pro- wrestling and has fans coming to her concerts.
Another one is that Ms. Fukushi plays an active role as a comedian.
When I think about it, I feel like I have to do something too.
When I was listening to Ms. Minano, I felt like I couldn't do anything if I didn't leave my SKE work at home.
I feel like I have to take care of my job first.
I don't think we don't take care of it, but we all take care of it and have fun.
I'm sure it's not wrong, but it's just "chan- chan".
I'm not obsessed with someone's memory, so I want to do various things and gain more fame.
Sometimes it may be an old idea, but doing bad things is one way of doing it.
To be honest, Ms. Suga Akari said that she was amazing because she did something very embarrassing as a girl.
Minano is also a heavyweight.
Yes, she is.
She was complaining about her weight a lot.
You can say no, but in the end it led to the result.
I think it's one way of not missing the chance because everyone has it.
I think it's the first time for Ms. Suga Akari and Ms. Minano to meet each other in person.
Do you have anything you'd like to say or do now?
I really want to do it.
I'm still in middle school, so I don't do much.
But as I get older, I think I'll be able to do more.
I'd like to be someone who can do anything.
Do you want to ride a seesaw?
Yes, I do.
I'm not the type of person who can ride a seesaw.
In Ms. Minano's case, I'm not sure if we can ride a seesaw.
That's rude.
That's what's funny about it.
I want her to sing and dance and become a fan of cute things.
But I don't think she can do it.
I don't think she's human enough.
Surprisingly, that's where you become a fan.
You have a human side.
How about you, Ami-chan?
I used to live in Kanto, so I watched a lot of Kanto programs.
I still have a lot of memories of Minarun-san's seesaw show.
There were a lot of funny people and cute people.
I learned about each of their characters and wanted to meet Minarun-san.
I also watched it at the concert.
I feel like variety is one of the reasons.
I want to cherish each and every place.
Who is the member with the strongest variety in SKE now?
There were two castings for SKE among the members.
If you give results here, it may lead to the elimination of the group.
Who will send it out?
When I did "Burikko Zelepoji", I was impressed with Mr. Sato Kaho.
My character is very solid.
No matter what direction I'm talking about, I'm running in my own direction.
So I think Mr. Sato Kaho is very strong.
Why don't you say it yourself?
You say you want fame now, but you don't take risks yourself.
To be honest, I like what I'm doing these days.
That said, one of the things that the current members lack is confidence.
We're not close friends, but when I'm asked who I like, I feel the kindness of recommending someone other than me.
But as a talent, it's hard, isn't it? If you don't come out there.
I think that's self-producing, but each group has its own culture.
I've been involved in 48 for a long time, but I think it was a culture of "me, me," so I was surprised.
I think it's a great opportunity for me to say that I can do this as a variety show.
In other words, even if it's just one, is there anything I can say with confidence?
Is there a member who can say "I'm sure I'm confident in this"?
I'm confident in my performance.
What's the basis?
The basis is that I've always liked idols.
I wanted to be an idol.
I've been learning dance for the fifth grade of elementary school where you can join an idol.
I've been learning dance so that I can deal with various genres.
Even after I joined S.K., it took me a lot of life to fill up my seniors' holes like under.
I'm confident.
I'm going to see it.
Yes, please come.
It's a must-see.
Oh, yes.
By the way, I was happy that you raised your hand without hesitation.
Yes.
What makes you confident?
I don't know if this will lead to being an idol, but I'm a fourth-year college student now.
I've never said it before, but I'm studying architecture at college.
I also want a weapon that no one else has in this group of people called S.K.48.
I'm still going to Kyushu University without quitting.
I don't think there are many idols who are learning architecture.
I hope I can make use of that part.
The gap is amazing.
I thought you were a college student because you were a smiling and gentle girl.
Honestly.
That's right.
Now, we've received a questionnaire asking what we should do to liven up S.K.
What do you think is lacking and what do you think is necessary?
But let's leave confidence aside.
I think everyone has a feeling of wanting to improve this group.
I thought it would be nice if we could send it out with more confidence.
That said, the team members have recently finished their new performances and each team is receiving new performances.
I thought it would be nice if we could fly out of the theater and perform in various regions and in the theater of the sister group.
You've been saying that for a long time, but you can't make it happen.
Yes, I can't do it.
But I actually go to talk to adults.
But when I get a real response back, I wonder if we can't do it with our own strength.
I'm not going to lose, but it's very frustrating.
As Chikako said, what I thought was SKE's strength was the theater.
I think I want to cherish it very much.
Speaking of 48, I think having your own theater is very strong.
SKE is getting such a new theater every year.
There's no such a wonderful opportunity.
I think SKE's new theater has started and moved to a new stage.
First of all, we will liven up SKE 48 Theater.
By having various people watch it, I think we will be able to appear in various 48 theaters.
I hope that various people will know that SKE has started a new theater.
Last time, K-2 performed with NIGHT TEMPO at IDOL FEST.
I'm sorry, I couldn't go see it.
What did you feel when you tried it?
Did it work?
What I was very frustrated about was...
After we finished our overture and left...
I was very frustrated that some of my fans laughed at me.
I think it's a burden for an idol to shine and give courage and energy.
Besides that, I was trying to show a new K-2 by doing a performance away from it.
When I heard laughter, I was very frustrated.
I was wondering if you would accept it.
But we don't want to lose.
We have confidence in our performance.
So we hope that more and more people will accept "timeless park"
and "timeless park"
I hope it will spread more and more.
But I definitely want SKY to revenge someday.
I want SKY to become a team that can do that.
I know I'm saying bad things on this occasion,
but when SKY went out to festivals several times,
I thought that SKY's way of fighting for idol festivals was quite wrong.
In fact, SKY has been doing things that only SKY fans can do.
If you're an outside idol, you'll be asked to do something like this.
Not everyone can cope with one way of hosting.
Because you usually do too much,
don't you have any worries when you show it to outside idol fans?
If you go out, you'll know.
It's very difficult and other idols are more used to it.
SKY has only done solo concerts so far,
so if you suddenly go out to talk with other idols or go to an idol festival,
you can't do anything all of a sudden and you're at the bottom.
But that doesn't mean you don't have enough skills.
Last time you didn't have a good impression of this, so let's do it next time.
Even if you only have one set list,
there are many other idols out there, so you have to find out if this set list is really good or not.
If you're going to an idol festival, you have to find a purpose for going out.
SKY has been going out to the most difficult places recently.
Mori-san, you've been doing a lot of things since you were a major idol.
But I think you all have skills,
so I think you don't have enough awareness of what kind of customers are there.
I know because I'm in the TV industry,
but when you do a Sunday afternoon show, you make it for the customers watching it on Sundays,
and when you make a late-night show, you make it for late-night customers.
For example, if you go out to places where idols go out for days like donations,
I think you should look it up first and see what kind of customers come to see you.
I think the people who come there are not just SK's fans, but so-called various fans who come to see you, so if you think, "Oh, that's the kind of customer," I think the content of the MC there will of course change as well.
I think it will change more if you have an MC who is aware of the customers there.
For today's members, Chikako and Ayamero are in a position to say their opinions.
I don't think that research is absolutely sufficient, but have you ever done it? I'm sorry to say it one step at a time, but I'd like to ask Ayamero as well.
I was really stuck.
I wasn't aware of it, and when I asked for an MC's advice, I had to separate it into an MC for the theater and an MC for the festival, but I couldn't separate them properly.
And when I came out, I felt like I wasn't this MC.
I thought we should talk more with each other, whether it's a performance or an MC, and challenge according to that place.
Well, I've been doing it for years because I think I've made the same mistakes over and over again.
After all, I think the frustration of the challenge is quite a real frustration, and I was frustrated when I was looking at it as a fan.
It's out of time, but is there anything you'd like to say about the future of SK?
Are you satisfied with SK48 now?
I'm not.
Why?
Of course, there are many things we can do more and more.
What I think of SK as a whole is...
I really want to be on a singing show.
Of course, there is something I want to do now as a selection member.
But what I want to do most as a selection member is...
My hometown is Kanto, so...
My friends who told me, "Do your best" when I became a member of SK.
My grandparents who live in my hometown.
I want them to see me doing my best.
Of course, I want them to recognize that I'm an idol.
Of course, I want them to see me doing my best.
I think it's one of the fields that spreads the word that SK is the best now.
Even if I release a single now, I don't think there are many idols who can appear on a singing show.
I want to be an idol who can appear on a singing show a lot.
I want to be SK.
How about you? Is there anything you're not satisfied with?
As for what you just said...
As for me...
In this single, I'm the only one in the group where Akari Suzawa was trained.
And...
In the previous song...
I've been in a lot of TV shows and stuff, but what's changed is me and Suda-san, so there's too much difference.
But I don't have any personal fame or anything, so I joined as one of the selection members, but...
I wonder if I can do something.
That's why I want to be an SKE that can appear in TV shows and stuff like that.
Mirei-chan didn't get much attention when she was in the center.
If you were SKE five years ago, you would have been more recognized as a center.
Did you think it was hard to be a center in such a situation?
It was also a center after Matsui Jurina-san graduated, so I was very anxious.
But I also wanted to draw out a different charm from the SKE four years before.
I thought I had no choice but to do my best there, and I wasn't very confident at the time, but now I'm doing my best with at least a little confidence.
Would you like to be an SKE center again?
I want to do it again... I want to do it again, because the last SKE center was a single called "Flower in my heart", and at that time, I was confident and my performance was a little better, and now I think there are a lot of things that I can send out, so I want to do it again.
But one last thing I want to tell you is that I think you are in a very fortunate environment.
After all, you have your own theater and your own performance, so I think you should put more effort into it and do as much as you want to do.
Then I'm sure, you know, maybe in today's world, only passionate people can receive it, but I think you all have it, so I'm sure you'll be fine, so do your best.
Thank you very much.
Unfortunately, it's time for the first group.
Thank you all for your hard work.
Thank you very much.
Next time...
I don't think I need to change my position.
I don't know what to say...
But Minami has a good sense of humor, and she's not in the spotlight, and she only has a theater...
I think it's pretty bad if it doesn't get better so far, so you have to be more conscious of it.
I got angry normally.