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Teretou!
Everywhere, Audrey! Tonight's guests are...
Between each song, I heard Yoshimura-kun's voice and I thought, is he mad at me?
Audrey and her partner, Peace Matayoshi-san and Nobukabu Yoshimura-san!
I think the entertainment world is fun, in my opinion.
Is it fun or painful?
Yoshimura-san's attempt at a fight and his unexpected appearance!
I'm embarrassed to say this in my family.
Then, they start talking about their true feelings.
Naked talk show, dancing everywhere.
It starts tonight.
Let me give you a letter.
Thank you.
She is a salesperson in her 30s in Aichi Prefecture.
Now, there is a sudden sauna boom in the world,
but I've been addicted to sauna for more than 10 years.
I think it's a shame to say this, but I also want you to know it.
Audrey, is there anything you wanted to say from the beginning that you knew its benefits?
Well, I often thought it was like that.
Oh, I see. You knew it from the beginning.
I've been reading Kimetsu since episode one.
I read it while jumping.
I read it from episode one.
There was a time when I read Kimetsu from the back.
But I thought it would come back again.
I was so excited.
It hurts a little.
That's because of city life and the cafe.
City life and retro cafe is popular now.
And the sad thing is that it's starting to be closer to the retro boom.
You're young, right?
And when young people started coming in, they took a lot of pictures.
I'm strong-spoken, but as someone who's known me for a long time, I think I should get out of here.
There may be many old men like that.
Thank you!
Thank you for coming!
You two are old men, aren't you?
It's been a while since we've been in this city, so let's have a beer first!
Today's guests are the same age but opposite in terms of their genres.
That's true.
The four of you are of the same age.
Yes, we are.
You've been close since you were young.
Yes, we've been close since we were young.
We're of the same age.
We entered high school and we're the lowest age group.
The same age group.
We're the same age and older.
That's why it was easy for me to talk with you.
Yoshimura-san, who wants to be a star in the entertainment world.
Mr. Matayoshi has appeared for the first time in three years.
Although they have completely different characters, they are actually of the same age.
They are two great actors who have starred in TV shows like Suji TV, Golden's story show and Hikaru no Teiri.
Let's start with Mr. Matayoshi, who is not familiar with them since their unexpected youth.
Were you two close from the beginning of your N.S.C.?
No, we were only halfway.
We started to get closer.
But you went home and about since college, right?
I did.
Oh, I see.
Yoshimura-kun was more Yoshimura than he is now, back in the day.
Yes, yes.
The way you were excited in the dressing room.
Yes, yes.
At first, Yoshimura-kun was like me.
What?!
You're kidding me!
That's a little harsh!
I can't accept that!
Like the dark one, number one or number two.
What?!
Seriously?!
He's really quiet.
He's all by himself.
It's like you don't know what you're talking about.
It's easy to hurt.
When I got a package from my grandmother, she brought half of it to me.
She's kind.
Instant coffee and stuff.
She's kind.
She's really kind.
Oh, I see.
But it's something you don't know, Matthew.
When I was in first year, there was an all-night club event.
ABYSS MILK!
I went there thinking you'd be there too and did our own jokes.
But after the jokes were over, we were all dancing and it was scary.
I thought I couldn't come here.
I thought it was the same.
I was surprised.
Suddenly the stage went up and I started dancing.
I was surprised.
It was a great sensation.
Until then, I had been doing the same thing.
That day, I became Yoshimura Takashi.
You were born in Shibuya.
Yes, that place. No doubt.
At the club?
At the club.
Wait a minute. How was high school like?
No, no.
I thought it was dark.
No, if it was like that, I'd be shocked.
I was messed up by Yoshimura in the dressing room.
That's right.
Sometimes, when I was invited to Yoshimoto's big gig,
I couldn't talk even if I was standing there, so when I was in the corner, I was like,
-"Did you have sex?" and I got told off so much.
If it was that, I wouldn't forgive myself from now on.
But there's a reason for that too!
Yoshimoto-kun was doing a story in the spring of the fairy tale era,
where the teacher calls out students.
Yoshimoto-kun, who played the teacher, knocked down a chair,
I also beat him and said in a low tone,
you're looking down on me, right?
That's a bit of a sense contract, isn't it?
That's your sense contract, isn't it?
It was a sense at first, wasn't it?
I thought it was a sense at first.
But then I had a real sense.
I thought I couldn't win if we stuck together here.
When we were at Milk, everyone was doing a story,
but there wasn't a single customer coming to see the story.
He was looking for music or meeting someone.
When I said, wow, he was excited.
Did you have a feeling at that moment that you were going to meet him?
I had.
I still remember it.
I remember him looking at me from behind.
I never did that.
It's my type.
I had that feeling.
I didn't know it was like that in the first place.
But if Yoshimura-kun wasn't a popular kid in middle school,
things would change for me.
But you are a popular kid!
Really?
Absolutely!
Was it noisy in class?
It was!
People would say,
What are you doing?!
I'm not good at this!
Hahaha!
But you could do it, right?
I could do it!
I thought I could talk to him.
Yeah.
When you were a high school student, you were a goalie.
You were a forward.
Yeah.
I had the image of sports.
You can do a lot of things!
I have good athletic nerves!
You do!
I have a kind image.
I hated it in soccer era.
In soccer era?
In middle school era, I was ignored in soccer club.
Why?
When we set up the engine before the game,
the coach said,
you don't have to do it, so let me do it.
Is it true?
It doesn't look like it.
We all did our best.
I think it's because I said it.
I like to practice and I thought too much about it.
I couldn't convey it well and there were no more people in a duo.
Don't you get used to traveling?
I have some self-centered points.
I'm Yoshimura-kun's key player, so sometimes it goes off.
There's a tour that you can go on a helicopter to Grand Canyon,
and all the entertainers drink together.
I'm riding on it, and Yoshino says, wow, there.
But I want to think about what I want to think while looking at such a beautiful scenery.
It's noisy, so everyone's wearing this, but we can only talk from here.
Yoshino talks a lot, so I put my earphones under it and listened to music while looking at the scenery.
between songs, I heard Yoshimura's voice and I thought, is he angry again?
He's ignoring me all the time!
Looking at you, you always had the image of a couple.
Yes.
What is it about you?
It's there.
It's probably because I've changed my character since then.
That's easy.
It's there from the beginning.
That's funny.
He had small eyes.
But he raised them up and looked at them like that.
It's not something you naturally have.
That's where he was evaluated by his seniors for the first time.
When he didn't have work, he would go out with girls.
He would say things like,
''There are weirdos in this era,'' and he would go to a club like that.
And then he was accepted, so he spent a lot of time there.
I thought he was too much of a party person.
I like Yoshimura-kun.
I didn't know you were a vinyl house fan.
I'm a vinyl house fan.
I can't help it.
I like Yoshimura-kun.
Well, that's not Yoshimura-kun's own producing or anything like that.
No, not at all!
There are things like I'm getting old and not popular anymore.
Wait, you're not popular anymore?
I'm not popular anymore!
I'm not accepting what I used to accept!
In anger?
Yes!
I'm not accepting what I'm saying in real life.
Even when people in their 20s and 30s say it,
there are more things that are old-fashioned or serious than just old jokes.
There may be more things that are gross.
I see. That's also a thing.
Yes.
In the past, you'd put on some muscle and touch it and get it back.
It would just melt away. But now it doesn't melt at all.
That's right.
Times have changed.
Yes.
I see.
But you've always watched Nobukobu.
Were his stories amazing?
I like it. I've always thought Yoshimura was interesting.
I was originally like this at the same age as you, and I was the one who made the story, so I was a little bad evaluation.
There was also jealousy.
After all, motivation is big.
I know that jealousy, but when I wrote the novel, I was jealous.
It has nothing to do with it.
I haven't written it or read it.
But I don't like it.
I'm jealous of the judges who won the first place.
I'm jealous of Gen Hoshino.
We're similar.
I've never thought of winning a medal, but I'm jealous of the judges who won it.
I still remember that after winning the first Grand Prix, when we were recording for the ceremony,
Yoshimura-kun said...
When I was told I won first place, I felt such a happy and sad blessing.
I'm jealous! Jealous of that!
But I'm strong! So at least I'm not defeated! Congratulations!
That's how you say it!
People will know!
I just remembered...
Before Peace, when Nobukobu first appeared on TV...
It's a little like that.
It's true.
When we did our first solo concert in Lumine, we couldn't make a story.
The story of the solo concert was not made.
Yoshimura-kun was waiting for me.
It's an important time.
He said he would make a story.
But I said I couldn't.
I'm his rival, so I couldn't.
I was convinced that it was a really important time for me.
I thought I would be scolded if my partner found out about it.
In the end, I made it.
Instead, if someone found out about it, it would be embarrassing.
So I told him not to put my name in the end roll.
After the live show, I thought it went well.
I was in the formation and I said,
I said, let me in.
Yoshimura's sense of justice,
I thought it would have been unpleasant if I didn't put it in.
I watched the end roll and at the end,
Last year, Yoshimura was high.
Thank you.
I was fired up.
I'm sorry.
You have a great moral.
Wait, I can't say it.
I've said it so many times.
No, no.
Ayabi got mad at me for revealing it.
I said, it's not the time for you to do it.
It really wasn't the time for you to do it.
That's right.
I said it.
Yes, you did.
How many novels does he have now?
Three novels.
Since winning the Akutagawa award in 2015,
he has written many other serialized novels,
and is active in writing and acting.
It seems that he has something he has always wanted to ask.
It doesn't go all the way to the end, but you review and correct it again, right?
A long novel is like that.
That's right.
Wow, that's...
Some people say it takes longer to correct.
Oh, I see.
You review and correct it all the way and then you walk from there.
That's right.
You can always worry about the little details you want to worry about, right?
It doesn't end.
I can't finish it. I rewrite it and read it again.
I thought it was better to be original.
It takes the longest time to read it again.
I see.
I read it over and over again.
Until you get that tension.
I see.
That's how you make it.
Making things is fun.
It's fun.
I like that.
I like that type of thing.
But I still like it.
It's fun.
TV, right?
Meeting people.
You're alone with a novel, do you miss people?
I miss people. It's unhealthy.
Is there a deadline for that?
I set it up to catch up with people.
There's at least three days a week.
So you write a lot of time in your schedule?
I write most of it.
I see.
I do nothing but drawing all day.
I only talk to the balcony without killing a spider.
Can I ask you about it?
How can you do it without killing a spider?
Take two tissues and cover it.
Then wrap it around and open the balcony.
And write like this.
Is that writing?
Yes, it is.
Thunder is spider.
That's increasing.
Oh, I see.
For example, while you're writing a novel, can I ask you about your daily schedule?
What do you do when you wake up in the morning?
I wake up in the morning and write something first before breakfast or lunch.
It makes me feel good.
I see.
You grab that by yourself.
That's right.
Wow.
I eat lunch and take a nap.
There is no entertainer who takes a nap, right?
What are you talking about?
I've never heard of anyone who takes a nap.
You don't even have a master.
The entertainer who takes a nap is Mr. Iwasaki of HiHi.
That's crazy.
I like silly jokes.
you
I like silly jokes.
You can find it there, too.
Low, low.
And low.
It's low.
It's all laugh.
And Kasuga, too.
I love him.
But you don't laugh at Kasuga's sorry side chest?
You laugh at someone else's side chest?
I laugh at it.
You want me to watch it?
Sorry side chest.
I thought you shouldn't laugh at it.
Now?
Yes, with this trend.
I want you to do more entertainment.
Come on!
Everyday work is fun and worth doing.
It is worth doing, but I do want to do comedy.
You do a lot of comedy shows.
You do a drama-like one and you make your own one.
But I stopped because of COVID-19.
Oh, really?
During my self-restraint period, I decided to write songs.
I thought I wouldn't have a stage.
As a result of increasing my work force, I still have the same days as before.
Oh, I see.
I see.
But you wanted to perform with everyone.
That's a reason, right?
I have a reason. But I never call people when I do unit or contest.
Talented people like Shizuru and Rice call me.
I'm not convinced of that either.
There's a reason why Yoshimura-kun didn't join.
But I think I know why he didn't join.
Why?
He's too focused on his own work.
If I told him in a band,
I'd say, Yoshimura-kun, you're in charge of bass this time, but you're singing it yourself.
You're suddenly coming forward with the bass!
No one does that in this career. I'm sorry, but...
I want to do it. If I can.
But wait a minute...
You can't predict the future, right?
You can't predict that he might stay in America for a long time.
That's right.
It doesn't seem like he'll come back.
That's right.
He might come back temporarily,
but basically he'll be in America and not on the main line.
If Ayabe comes back, things will change, right?
It might change.
It'd be amazing if Ayabe came back.
I'm not there anymore, so I'm a little bit in that place.
I don't know what would happen if I were there.
I don't know what will happen even if I come back.
But the story of Ayahubei and Watanashi returning from the U.S.
I'm really interested in it.
That's right.
The types of light are so different and interesting.
But Watanashi's style is also cool.
He made it well and did the TV.
He is cool but I want him to be more...
I want him to be more...
I want him to be more selfish.
I feel like he is trapped in the characters everyone made.
That's true.
Yes.
Like a novelist's teacher.
I want him to be like me in full course.
Like making a show.
Looking back on my career,
in my mid-twenties, when I was told I was very quiet and quiet,
Like a tour with customers. Like a bus tour.
Yoshimura-kun, every time you try to destroy my character like that...
Like, which one feels better, right or left wrist?!
Easy.
And you make me answer that...
But somehow, like that, you gradually...
So, when this show just started...
When Yoshimura-kun came...
It's been a while since I saw you. Like... I wanted to see you.
When Yoshimura-kun first came to this show...
You were really glaring.
Oh!
Yeah.
It's been 4 years since he started climbing back up.
You want to get a raise, don't you?
What's a raise?
Let's pay off our debts somewhere.
We'll get angry.
Mr. Yoshimura announced his raise in the entertainment world.
But...
I had a headache, and it's corona now, and it's over.
I had a terrible headache in August.
It was a terrible situation.
The problems are overlapping
According to last year's report
Hey, Kipin
You gave up on Tenkatori, didn't you?
I didn't give up
I just thought the road was steep
What happened to the road to Tenkatori?
I hate that Yoshimura
I want you to say Yoshimura forever.
I know you are selfish but I want you to say it.
I know.
I used to watch Yoshimura when he was delicate in his teens.
I watched Yoshimura when he became more powerful in his twenties.
I want you to say it.
I know. I know it very well.
I lost my energy after I failed at investing.
Of course.
That was big.
What does it mean? Does it mean shock?
No, it's not shock.
It's like there's a lot of reasons to think about it.
No, when I said why I was going to do it in the first place...
I think I said it here, but people who say pretty hard things and people who say absolutely savings are there.
And even if it didn't work out at this site, I thought I could live for years.
First of all, you need money.
To get through your own mentality and your own will.
You're being blamed for it.
I thought it would be like that.
Then it disappeared, so I gave up.
The failure of investment was reflected in the plan
It was written in Nobunaga's book that gold is needed
First of all, let's call Sony
But you have a vision of making Yoshimura Kingdom, right?
Yes, of course
It's a little bit of a struggle now
The younger generation is amazing.
Mukai, Pan-san Mukai, Shinobu, Yamazo Edoka, Ito.
But I was surprised to come here.
Of course, I knew that the race would start and then I would come out, but can I change this place for a moment?
Sakuma-san, you participated in the race, didn't you?
You! You! You participated in the race!
I remember when you were an MC for a big show in Odaiba.
Right, right.
You were like,
we're the ones who raise them, not the ones who bring them in!
Yeah, yeah.
We're not here to take their land!
We're the ones who do it.
We're always quiet.
Quiet, quiet!
We support them.
We roll them over!
I remember when Yoshimoto said he'd take over, you were laughing.
I was laughing and said,
I'll take over!
And you came up to me in no time!
This is so embarrassing!
This is frustrating!
I'm begging you.
Golden, Yoshimura's show.
You have talent.
Of course I do.
Like I said before, Kyushu.
They say they have good shows in Canada.
Kyushu will come, right?
Yes, I heard it will be the third comedy show.
Tokyo, Osaka and Fukuoka.
I heard it will be a big hit.
So I have to hold back Kyushu first.
And with that financial power...
Recently, I got along with the president of Nissan.
I recently got into a fight with the president of Nissan
I don't mind
Is that what it is?
I was like that
March and April get cold often
It was the same
Nothing new started
You wanted it
I wanted it
I wanted it to end
Is it News Fix?
The host.
Yes.
They are making a lot of money and running an economy.
Do you think that direction is also possible?
I think it's possible.
I met the president of Nissan there.
What can you do on LINE?
What is it?
You met the president of Nissan.
That's a big thing.
What will you change?
It's really big.
What will you change after meeting the president of Nissan?
He made me a show for BS Yoshimoto.
As a host.
That's how it started.
No one would say that in front of a camera!
The show was made by me!
The president of the visual clinic wouldn't say that!
But in the end, it's a success.
Isn't it fun to be in the entertainment world?
Is it fun or painful?
It's painful, Yoshimura, I don't want you to do it.
It's hard.
I don't know what you're saying, but...
So, is it painful or jealous?
Jealousy is always painful.
There are programs that end and programs that start, and someone is picked up every day and becomes a star.
But from the outside, Yoshimura-kun seems like he's doing well and everyone loves him.
But why are you like that?
I don't want you to say that you're in pain.
Everyone wants him in the studio and everyone gives him candy.
I'm happy about it, but it's not love.
I don't think it's like that.
You have to be that kind of person in order to see it.
Is it like that for me and Mr. Sawabe?
No, Mr. Sawabe loves you.
I feel love.
Don't say like that.
I feel love.
I think you are shocked because you have worked with him.
I don't know.
For example, Ryuutarou Kamioka was great all the time.
But he became great after he got older.
It is not possible for people of his age.
How old do you think you are?
I think we have to settle this by 45.
3 more years?
3 more years.
What do you mean by settling?
I think we have to settle with the goal of starting with a few gold medals at Yoshimura.
That's the last line.
I might have to quit after that.
You have to quit?
I'm already weak.
I'm not getting any names.
I don't have one!
It's a little slow, one.
When you get together with Ito and stuff...
When you're like, what's this? and then like, POW! Like this impulse.
Ito!
But it's getting more and more.
Ito!
Ito's fast, right?
He's fast, he's fast.
He's getting faster, but...
But I guess he's still a little slow physically and mentally.
That's true.
Is it fun, being an entertainer?
It might be tough.
I don't want to do this with you, Shunran.
Basically, it's fun.
I can understand that.
I can believe it.
But there is fun and there is suffering.
It is not only fun.
There is always both sides.
It is good.
It is good to summarize it in large.
It is good.
But...
I don't want to say it.
Three years left until 45.
I'm 45 now, but I'm 45 this year.
I thought for the first time.
I thought, I'm already 45.
I thought it was a conclusion.
Conclusion.
It wasn't sad.
What I can do and what I can't do so far.
I couldn't understand what a location was until the end.
I see.
I've been doing this for about 15 years since I appeared on TV.
I've been doing this for 15 years, but I still don't know what a location is.
I've been trying to do only what I know and what I don't know.
I tried not to force it.
Without challenging.
I won't challenge.
If you don't understand it.
Bye!
If you don't understand it, you can't do anything about it.
You don't have to try new things.
I thought it was better.
I see.
That's growth.
It suddenly turns around.
It's the same as the idea of the creator.
But you don't admit what you can't do.
But there is a reason for it.
The creator's next idea is who to make it for.
I can trust my partners and juniors.
The army is what makes it happen.
And I think it's coming along nicely.
I see.
You flew it alone?
Yeah, I couldn't do it alone.
It's a team effort.
Tenker, you know, you have to make up for it.
But you know, I'm trying to climb up the mountain.
But I can't do it anymore.
Really?
I'm happy about it. I've thought about it a lot.
But those three years...
I was numb for those three years.
Wow!
You experienced it.
Honestly, I wish I had done it a little harder.
There were times when Audrey was special.
Yeah.
And I thought, if it's like this, I'll tell her.
I just remembered what Yoshimura said.
At that time, a comedian who would cooperate with us on the project came.
At that time, we didn't have a reason to be nervous for Audrey unless we ate the same food.
Oh, the comedian.
Yes, yes, yes.
That doesn't mean anything bad.
I was very grateful for it.
You're coming as a first-time performer, right?
Yes, yes. So, taking off your skin is a sign of great determination.
And honestly, looking at other actors, it's true.
You're eating from the same pan.
But even if you bring everyone together, the project doesn't go anywhere.
I know.
You know?
I know.
There's a difference in passion.
I'm often called out for it, so if it's this person, I'll have a relationship with them and get on with it.
I don't hate it, but I'll just do it.
Yes, yes, yes.
There's a difference in temperature, right?
Yes, that's why when I did it with Sabe and Yoshimura-kun, we know a lot about each other's motives.
I can't do anything about it
That kind of driving feeling
It's not bad but it's not enough
So I want to make a team
Until then
You did it for our team
So
So Yoshimura-kun
If you say so, you want to do it, right?
If Yoshimura-kun says so, I want to do it too
I have something to say to you, but...
Why don't you try working for Yoshimura?
Once you do...
Once you do, you'll be able to do it.
I'm happy!
Again!
But he's been saying it for a long time.
Make me your bodyguard.
He's been saying it since he was 20.
I'll let you do it of course, but before that, hold this castle for me!
Castle, castle...
I heard it's expensive!
If you get caught there, you'll be hated by your elders.
After this, we'll see a surprising personality of Peace and Matayoshi!
I don't want to be like that!
I don't want to be like that.
He might not be passionate about making songs.
He might like money or girls.
We heard from Mr. Matayoshi that he has something to talk about with his four colleagues.
What kind of grandpa do you want to be?
I want to know about it.
I was curious about this.
My middle school friends told me that I might become an old man who only complains.
Before I left school, I was curious about whether I was that kind of person.
For example, if you have someone who tells you that you can't go through with this,
For example, do you gossip?
I gossip a lot.
Is that so?
I don't do it now, but I used to do it at work when I was young.
I'm not a gossip king, but I'm not a person who loses his mouth.
Even if a weird senior at work makes a mistake, he will say it properly.
I think there is a high possibility of me becoming a hated old man.
Is there such a possibility?
There is.
I think so.
Do you feel it for the first time?
For example, I drink with Mr. Daigo.
When I drink, I feel it when people from far away in the store come in and talk.
If you are entertainers, you will dance.
I do it at first.
But when I drink for a long time, I feel it once.
Can I do it for a moment?
There are many things that entertainers have done for over 20 years and are sitting here at this counter.
Suddenly, I think, is it okay?
There was one time when I was scared.
It's because psychology is advancing too much,
so when I see the words, I want to make a name for it.
When I say it,
people say, isn't that wrong?
I see.
At that time, I wanted to have a look.
You got it.
At that time, I thought it was scary.
It's crazy.
It was confusing.
Even my words are confusing now.
If you get caught in that, you'll be hated by your elders.
I get caught unexpectedly.
I see.
But I'll be careful.
I think you'll be called an old man.
Really?
You'll be called an old man?
I won't say it directly.
I'm the one who gets the most claim cards for taxis in Japan.
You're kidding!
I took it in a bundle as soon as I got on.
If nothing happened, you wouldn't write it.
You also go to the gym.
There are rules in the gym.
If you break them, you will be executed.
That was posted as a good execution.
What did you write about it?
What was it?
I wrote a lot of things.
You're a clever old man.
You're a disclaimer!
I'm already doing it.
For example, you two come and do bench presses or dumbbells.
While one of you is doing it...
...and you're sitting on a bench waiting for someone.
That's... you know, embarrassing, right?
Embarrassing, right?
I don't want to be like that.
He likes rules.
So when a free throw comes out of the script, it's annoying.
Because he breaks the rules.
He doesn't break the rules.
Since there's a script, he's doing it according to the rules.
So during lunchtime, we're asking questions to Mr. Nanbara.
But I want to change it and ask questions.
I want to post it.
You want to post it.
It's okay if you don't ask questions to Canpedol.
It's okay.
I can't take my eyes off of Yoshimoto for three years.
I'm looking forward to it.
I'll do my best as a mikoshi.
Do you often go out for meals with the staff?
I do.
It's wide.
Yeah.
But I guess he's not a passionate person about production.
He's just a musician that money or women like.
You should go and see.
It starts with a scream.
You want it.
You don't know it?
You don't know it until you go and see?
You don't know it.
You should first find that person.
You were faster. You were closer.
I'm recruiting military officers.