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Teletoe!
Tonight, for the first time in four years, that guest visits us!
But you came out to places four years ago.
You came out to places you weren't expected to come out to.
Maybe there was a risk.
Maybe there wasn't a plus.
Good evening! Thank you!
Thank you.
Today's guest is Gen Hoshino.
Nice to meet you.
Thank you.
Not only music, but also radio and theater, and essays.
Gen Hoshino is active in various fields.
Today, from the 14th, for the first time in about six and a half years, they will release their sixth album!
Today, Audrey and Honne will talk about their creative joy and their private stories!
I saw Sam struggling there on TV and thought it was my fault.
You heard it in the living room, it's forbidden.
Their voices of hearts resonate with each other!
Young people are the same.
They are.
I'm happy even when I'm disappointed.
I see.
I agree.
What is hope that was seen before despair?
These four years were like that.
I think they were good four years.
Naked talk party.
Dancing everywhere.
It starts again tonight.
I also go on shows and concerts.
But when I went to your house, I heard you went there.
Yes, I did.
I'm going to eat my own food.
You're exaggerating.
I'm not exaggerating.
I didn't bring you here.
Mr. Kumi welcomed me warmly.
I don't know if I can say your name, but I welcomed you, too.
Is it okay?
Is it okay for me to say your name?
It's not good for women.
It was a lot of fun.
We were moved, too.
While you brought us champagne,
I don't drink blood, but I bring about two bottles of champagne.
How about alcohol?
Champagne and cork have been standing for more than a year, but they are still displayed on the table.
You're lying!
Is that true?
Even if it's been more than a year, cork will still be displayed on the table.
That's what happened four years ago.
I'd like to talk about it first, but Mr. Hoshino came to our live show at the Tokyo Dome as a surprise.
And Mr. Hoshino was a surprise appearance.
That's right.
Bon of Big Small said it, but it's funny that the real thing has finally come out.
That's weird.
A guy who can't perform at the dome has finally come out.
I can finally rest assured.
When you experience something like that,
does it become a part of you?
It did feel like that.
When I first came to the park, I was really nervous.
My heart was about to pop out of my chest.
But when I was invited by a guest,
I was happy to be able to come again.
You were excited?
I was happy.
I was able to see the faces of the customers clearly.
But it was still surprisingly small.
That's what I thought once again.
He was so cool.
It's been a while since I last saw him like this.
This is Hoshino's surprise appearance scene that Kasuga is praising!
Long time no see, Tokyo Dome.
Orange is performed by Rakabayashi-san and the venue is filled with enthusiasm!
I thought it was cool and I was hooked.
I was told about it at the end of the show at Hinata-saka's Tokyo Dome show.
I said it on stage.
It's been a while.
I wanted to say it.
But I couldn't catch up with my feelings.
I was watching it on the monitor and I was so excited.
That's right. It only took one show.
But people who stand on stage can make the venue their own.
There is a size of your hand to handle, right?
Yeah, I felt like that.
I was moving forward with my hands a little small at the Tokyo Dome live.
I couldn't handle it well.
I went to see famous people's rakugo performers and
they were completely shaking with this two thousand kappa.
I was next to Hoshino-san and felt it a lot.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You also go to festivals, right?
Yes.
When we went to a manga live show the other day,
we had to use our heads to make it easier to understand.
We couldn't just laugh and say, like we always do.
We're not our audience, so they wouldn't know.
Is it different to have different bands and artists at your own live show and festival?
I used to do it a lot when I was in my 20s and 30s.
The fans of my band come, right?
I'm young, so I'm like taking that customer.
It's our...
There's a game like how much you can bring with you and how attractive you are.
It's like the mind at that time comes back temporarily.
When it's my turn at a festival or something, I'll switch in a little bit.
I'm sure you're dancing or you're looking away.
I'm sure you're a different person to make sure you get there.
I'm going to show you how much I can do.
By the end of the show, there are more places that are excited than the first scenery I entered.
I see.
It's like young feelings.
I feel like I'm back in battle mode all of a sudden.
The moment I got off the stage, it turned off and I was lazy.
I see.
It's like young, but...
I'm not physically strong at all.
While he was doing it, he was like crazy.
But his fall width is amazing.
His body is like...
Only his fall width is different.
Like, boom!
I think you do a lot of training and stuff, but do you feel younger after your performance?
Yes.
As you get older?
It's really...
Is it different from when you were young?
It's only tiring.
You must be tired even before you go out.
Seriously.
You feel like you're switching on the moment you go out.
Recently, I've been taking my daughter to kindergarten.
And I have a father and a mother of the same age.
You're the only one who's not tired of being the same age.
I'm in a combo with you, so I have to be healthy.
I'm told every day now and then.
A man who is not sick.
Is there a man who is not sick in the entertainment world?
Not sick.
Why not sick?
A man who is not sick feels great.
I like that.
It's not a lie.
It doesn't make sense.
Anyway, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
You may be fine.
Do you write songs late at night?
Yes, I do.
In the middle of the night?
Can you write songs in the middle of the night?
Yes, I can write songs in the middle of the night to morning.
But I changed how I wrote songs.
I wrote songs on my computer and downloaded them from a software called DAW.
you can make it yourself from beginning to end.
So, I like playing in front of the puzzle machine for eternity.
Wow...
It's like I got a new toy!
You can play with it forever, so you can play with it in the morning when you notice it.
After all, if you can make this A melody in about 2 hours and 40 minutes,
Do you take a break and watch the night view of Tokyo from the balcony?
What kind of question is that?
What do you want to know?
What makes you say that?
I'm sorry to say this, but a brainwasher like you doesn't know how it feels to leave the balcony at 2.47 pm.
Go back to school.
Why school?
Let me stay!
I won't shut up, so let me stay!
Let's talk here.
You stay up late thinking about something, right?
Yes, I go out of the balcony.
You go out of the balcony and go for a walk.
It's a little late at night.
I used to walk around Yamate Street at night.
I used to walk around and talk and take a shower.
Don't you have it now?
Not at all.
[PH] I don't have it.
That's great.
But I punched myself once in this album.
What?
I told you that I thought about lyrics while punching myself.
You knew it. It was dangerous.
I punched myself once since then.
Why did you do it?
I couldn't do it.
I knew that I would be punished.
I was like,
Come on, come out!
It's a little different.
That's a festival, isn't it?
We actually fight.
That's right.
It's like one man pride.
One man pride.
[PH] Come out!
That's right.
Not come out.
Well, there are many jobs.
That's right.
I'm getting bored of it.
I can't make it at night anymore.
That's good.
It's been about half a year.
Even if I go to the doctor's at eight in the morning,
I'm eating old ladies and plain dog,
so I don't feel like writing a comic book.
But it's getting annoying to write in the morning.
I'm just going to do whatever I want in the morning,
I thought I'd just hang out in my room and talk to her.
But if I just let her talk, it's boring.
Of course it's boring.
Of course it's random.
I thought you made it carefully.
I thought I had to make it.
I had to give you what you made.
I thought it would be interesting.
It's interesting to watch TV.
I envy you having a partner.
I'm alone wherever I go.
I feel like I'm talking to myself.
But I have that mindset.
I don't care anymore.
Let's not release anymore.
The album is postponed.
You go that far.
It's postponed.
I think that mindset is quite important.
In the end, you have to do it when you start.
Until you start, it's like, stop it, stop it.
I won't do it.
That's how my heart calms down.
It was about four years ago when you were in your 40s.
That's right.
Did you change anything? Like lyrics or melody?
Mr. Boshino has produced numerous hit songs so far,
but it seems like his way of making songs has changed a lot over the past few years.
Before, I would sing on the guitar for hours and hours
I took a few hours and picked up something good and spread it out.
When I went out on self-restraint due to COVID-19, I had time to study.
I thought I could study for a while and started from there.
I felt like I was back in middle school when I started music.
Fresh feeling.
So I was like, wow, this is fun! And that's how we made our new album.
I don't know much about music, but I feel like something has changed.
When you were young, you had a lot of lyrics.
Did you feel like you were stuck in a punchline?
I did feel like that before.
Is it different now?
I'm happy when I come up with a punchline.
It's like a punching instrument that can be stuck in various places.
I used dirty words, too.
Now I don't want to say anything or want to convey anything.
There's nothing.
Isn't there ever?
That's right. It's getting less and less.
Originally, when you make something, you can say whatever you want without hesitation.
But now, I have nothing to say.
Wow! That's a great zone!
But you make music with fresh feelings, so you think music is more fun, don't you?
That's right.
When I was watching Nakagawa's manzai from my sleeve, it was so funny.
And Tsuyoshi was like,
What?
And Reiji was like,
What?
And Tsuyoshi didn't give back anything.
And the audience was so happy.
But it's not like you can just put a piece of wood on it.
But it's made naturally and effortlessly.
I was wondering what it was like, and I thought about it for the first time.
Big wood flips.
I feel like we're not in a good angle of being in a good position to line up a lot of good guys in a good position.
But we don't know the answer.
Well, yes, age and our tempo.
How about you, Hoshino-san?
What if our manzai changed?
I'm not going to say it.
That was from Wakabayashi-san.
What's with that twist?
Like a donation.
Like a gift.
It's like a talk show.
Talk show.
It's a waste of time to talk about it.
I feel like
it's aiming for
a meaningless
high.
Especially after watching
I don't know what you mean, but I want to say it.
I think it's fun to have no meaning.
I think it's fun to have meaning.
But it doesn't matter.
I think I'll be happy if I find a meaning.
But meaning and happiness are totally different.
Happiness is different from happiness even if you get meaning.
Happiness is something more appropriate.
I think it's like an interesting song even if it doesn't have any meaning.
Recently, I've been writing about fun things like this.
I don't care about the meaning of it.
I want to make interesting music and I want to be the best.
It changes.
You're amazing. You often realize and change things by yourself.
But I'm not interested in anything now.
Thank you, Hoshino-san. I'm happy.
I'm happy. Thank you.
You're not interested in anything, right?
Young people are the same, right?
As a CEO.
I thought so, too.
I'm not interested in anything anymore.
I think there are many interesting things in the world.
The world of daily life TV is a big word.
If it's not like this now, it's impossible.
I'm not interested in anything.
It's really impossible.
So I think it's okay.
That's right.
I haven't been on TV before, but I used to think, for example, in a questionnaire,
What are you interested in?
Oh, by the way, I like that song of that person.
I thought it was good to hear this song of this person the other day.
The questionnaire was published.
So let's pick it up.
I talked to her and when I looked at the audio, it said,
Who is the star of your big fan?
I thought making 0 or 100...making 1 or 5 into 100 would be the TV.
Since then, I can't write down my feelings for someone.
Because you're forced to do so?
I can't write it unless it's someone I love so much.
I thought it was so difficult.
It was getting hard to write down my feelings.
And what about the underground TV?
Who is the underground TV?
Who is the underground TV that walks?
After all, it will be show up.
That's right.
So I'm careful about editing this program.
This is also underground.
That's right.
Don't exaggerate.
This time, I will edit it carefully.
[PH] Especially.
Certainly, happiness is something that can be transmitted in elements or simply simple words.
That's why I'm happy now.
You want to do it, don't you?
It's a time of dignity and happiness.
It's like, this wind that I'm walking with now is nice.
That's all I have.
There's a delicious-looking snack shop on the way home, so I'll buy it.
When I go home and eat with my family at home, I say, oh, it's delicious.
Yes.
I'm told I should be interested in something,
but I think it's fine.
I'm happy even if I'm not interested at all.
It was a good wind, but I was told,
-"What's that?" and I thought, -"Is it okay?"
He gave up.
Let's do it, earth-lovers. Let's do more TV.
I had dinner with Mr. Makabay before.
I've been thinking about it.
If you don't put in what you want to say or comment in a short period of time,
you can't make a telop or you can't use it.
I thought Baccarism said that.
For example, I want to do my best because I'm promoting it.
I want to do my best, but my story gets longer.
I don't know what to do.
If you have any ideas, please leave it to me.
I'll do it all.
You said like that.
But then, you gave up, too.
We were in the same place.
We were lying side by side.
But we talked in different way.
We were not in the bathroom.
You were next to me.
I wanted you to be next to me.
I wish you'd pull it up from the other side.
You're saying that.
Oh, yeah.
You said it before, it's hope, didn't you?
Last time, four years ago, you said it.
And of course, Kusasu.
It's Kusasu no matter what.
There's high school and stuff.
But even in that flow,
I think it's hope that young people are looking for different places.
Did you hear that?!
Hello, hope!
But I regretted it so much.
Oh, really?
You told me you wanted to be on TV.
I felt like you started suffering from that day.
That's not true.
You started cutting your bangs.
Oh, my bangs!
You started wearing golden hair.
You said you wanted to be on TV again and work hard.
But you watched me struggling on TV and said,
It's my fault.
You listened to it without permission.
It's my fault.
A few days ago, I said I was tired of the show that I made with Mr. Sakuma and Mr. Sakuma.
That's right.
It seemed like it.
In 2023, the talk show of the two broadcasted on Netflix was called Lighthouse.
I'll ask anyone, so please tell me what I should do.
They meet once a month and talk about various topics.
However, for Wakabayashi-san, who talked about his troubles while acting in comedy, such as being a comedian and hosting a variety show,
Hoshino-san said...
In a word, I think I'm sick of it.
Hoshino-san...
You're good at saying it.
I'm happy, too.
I'm not hoping for something, but I'm disappointed.
I'm disappointed and desperate at the same time.
I'm happy, too.
I'm happy even if I'm disappointed.
I can eat rice once if it's delicious.
That's right. Food is important.
Four years have changed a lot of things.
I think it's been a good four years.
I agree.
It's been about four years since you were in your forties,
but don't you feel like you were still young and free?
I thought it was good when I was in my 20s and 30s.
I'm going to collapse.
I think there's a way out of it.
I think there's something beyond that.
It's really nice.
I didn't have it.
I don't have it either.
I'm so happy. This is the first generation, right?
Yes.
It's the first generation.
This is definitely the first generation.
This is not a TVer original.
But, how can I say...
There are ships that carry people of today in the world.
Yes, there are.
And those ships are flowing, aren't they? The river.
And the passengers change, don't they?
And if you get to sit in the middle of it,
or if you get to experience it a little,
you get anxious, don't you?
Yes, you do. As you get on board.
And you can tell that the engine sounds different.
You might feel like you should say it out loud.
For example, stories that are popular in the entertainment world are spread out everywhere.
People publish books about it.
But nobody writes about it.
That's right.
Nobody does.
There's no hint.
And it doesn't become a topic of conversation.
That's right.
Nobody makes it a topic of conversation.
For example, even if you listen to it, you don't say it.
There are no hints anywhere, so you have to experience it.
You have to feel it yourself.
But as a feeling of enjoying music, you're back to when you were young.
When I was young, I couldn't see around me.
And when I started composing, I thought that the music I was playing here would reach far away.
In fact, it's only ringing here, but I'm a little satisfied with just saying something.
I had a little bit of that feeling.
In the past, I couldn't see around with hope, but now I can't see around with despair.
I'm like that. I don't care. I don't care.
I'm having fun.
I'm in that state.
I said it's okay, but at the end of the interview,
you said you wanted to be able to think you're fine without being evaluated.
Even if I don't feel needed, I want to be someone who can live happily.
Isn't it the best if you can live happily?
It's the best! It's the best, but don't say that!
Maybe you already achieved that.
I was suffering a lot there.
I left from the point where I was not good at communicating with people.
When I made music, people in front of me who were happy with it said,
like, you're amazing, and I was happy that I had communicated successfully.
So I've been working hard to make music like that.
I realized that I can't communicate with people without expression.
I realized that my work is appreciated and praised, but I haven't changed.
I said, this is good, and it's over.
If you praise me, I'm lucky.
And it's been going through a lot of hardship for about four years.
And it's finally completed.
That's amazing.
So, the lighthouse...
The butterfly's wings are all dirty inside, right?
Yeah.
You can't cut and break those wings and make it dirty, right?
Yeah.
It's either or, right?
In the childhood, you could either talk or become a butterfly and fly.
The cocoon was all dirty and everyone...
If you do that, you might not have a chance to win.
That's the same for you two.
Yes, you two are also a cut off.
Somehow, you managed to deceive us with funny lines.
Very fun lines.
At first, you said you wanted to go with a more shot, documentary-like lines.
If you don't make it a good, funny lines, we can't watch it anymore.
I see, you have to make it a little...
I have to make it fun for the staff.
I'm sick of it.
It's too serious if I say it in small.
No, it's serious.
I'm sick of it because it's serious.
Ah...
And who is it?
Mr. Hoshino is a creator and is next to you.
If you were told,
you might think,
But of course, I'm with the director and production staff.
And of course my wife and Mr. Wakabayashi.
Mr. Wakabayashi joined.
That's what I thought and asked.
Hey, that's unfair!
Let me say it!
I want the underground to watch it!
Why did you come here and suddenly...
I just got an order.
You felt it and bought it yourself?
I bought it myself.
I delivered it.
You're cleaning it up.
I bought it myself.
You're taking care of it.
Of course, it's the case for the fans who support us.
And I think I'm the only one who thinks it's good.
There is, right?
I think that's the max.
I think it's the same for writing manzai.
There's a moment like, wow, I did it!
When I'm writing lyrics, I'm like, wow!
That's enough for me.
I think it's really worth it.
It's not easy.
But you're fine.
I don't feel it all the time.
What is it like now?
I don't know much about it.
I don't know.
I'm like, oh, I see.
The audio was flowing.
Yes, the audio.
I looked for something I could do about it, but I couldn't find anything.
It was like you were giving in to orders.
[PH] That's right.
And you were exhausted.
I've seen it a few times.
When you have dark eyes as if you're about to die.
That's not true.
Gen-san.
Did you have that?
Kasuga-san's darkness is actually...
I wonder if he's carrying a lot of things.
Well, that's right.
You don't say it.
I don't say it or I can't make it into a language.
Then you shouldn't say it.
So you don't want to say it?
Maybe I do, but I can't say it in words.
I know you don't have it.
So you don't want to say it?
But my fans...
No, because I'm a strong Piero with strong will,
I'm doing my best in front of this camera.
But in reality, there's a shadow.
I want to kick the fans out of their dreams.
Kick them out?
How can you say that?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for giving you food.
I'm sorry for being a pervert.
Are you just doing Audrey?
Oh, that's right.
Audiences have ordered Audrey's performance.
They have ordered Audrey's performance.
I performed a show.
And the audience moved.
But it's okay.
I'm okay.
I feel like I'm alive.
That's exciting.
It's really interesting.
He usually talks about that with his wife.
Does he talk about Trump's complete overthrow?
He probably thinks, you guys are alike.
What does Nakabayashi want to hear about Hoshino's private life?
I know you don't have to cheer for her, but do you ever tell your family or wife about your movie?
No, my wife doesn't watch my movies that much.
We talk a lot. Like dog videos and cat videos and stuff like that.
We show each other stuff like that and we say,
Oh, that's nice.
Oh, that's really nice.
Oh, that's nice.
That's how much we talk.
Do you like movies or music you like?
And you like games, too, right?
That's right.
The only thing is, horror novels...
I told you I like horror.
I read them more and more.
Before you go to bed?
I read them before I go to bed.
Horror novels...
They're scary, aren't they?
They're really scary.
You're like, I'm scared!
But I feel like I'm alive.
It's exciting.
I think it's exciting.
I think you can tell.
Horror and ghosts are things you can't see and you don't know if they really exist.
They make up things you don't know or don't have.
They make stories that you don't have a lot of references for.
There are human dramas, of course, and there are funny tricks, surprised, and full of surprises.
It makes me happy.
Wow, it's funny!
I'm scared, but it's funny!
And because it's words, you can imagine it in your head.
So, I'm much more scared now, and I feel like I'm close to the internet.
So I'm the only one who's been able to get in.
I've only heard one-man-talks of a really unpopular professor.
67 views, Trump's complete statement,
I saw comments like,
''GPT and I are like this now,'' and ''me'' in the comments.
I really like that time.
What is it that you like so much?
Are you asking about the bird's singing?
Yes, I am.
I was originally looking for the bird's singing.
Oh, and you found it there.
Oh, you found it there.
Oh, is that what you mean?
It's in that order.
I went back and it was like the end of Amulet House.
In other words, I don't like radio because it's too funny.
I see.
I don't hate funny things, but I hate them because they're too funny.
And I started with river sounds and healing music.
I started with videos of me talking a lot.
Then I started with videos of Storedge's grandfather's ecology.
And now I'm talking like a boring college professor.
There's a proper order, right?
From natural music...
You're not a college professor all of a sudden.
I'm not.
I think I'm influenced by that algorithm.
You are?
If you look for sea turtles, sea men, sea rivers, and so on,
you'll find a related video below that.
There's a video of a college professor.
What?!
So, it's an algorithm created by Wakabayashi-san...
No, it's not.
Right, right.
It's not a joke.
Like this, the algorithm will probably...
That's right.
Yes, what do you think?
What do you think?
This flow of things is here now.
That's right.
While playing it, you can lie down and close your eyes.
Yes, yes, yes.
And now we've reached the talk of a psychologist.
Wow, I'm so happy!
I understand it very well.
It's the same flow.
You want me to explain it, right?
Psychologist's talk.
Yes.
He is not that popular.
Yes, he is.
Popular people are talkative.
They are trying to sell.
I see.
I think it's popular in their 20s.
It's like being shown up.
Yes, it's popular in their 20s.
So, you start with a live show, too.
Yes, we start with a tour.
When does it start?
It starts from May, the day after this show.
The Arena Tour starts on May 15th.
I thought you could do a live show, but you can't lose your health.
Yes, I'm aware of that.
It's rare for you to do a live show every year.
You have a sore throat, don't you?
Yes, I do.
It's been a while since we had a tour.
I see.
We'll do our best.
First Summer Uika is coming this month!
Even for a minute or a second, I wanted to keep clinging to Taiga.
I wanted to take him out and slide him off.
That's how an animal does it.
Even if you say, who's laughing in the dropshare?
They'll say, Natal, you're doing great.
What are the three of them dreaming of?
The truth is revealed!
Mega is helping out with a counterattack!
The scariest thing is that he's a director who's more free than a shark.
40 years of gay life!
He's going to let out all his feelings!
I love Achikochi Audrey, but unfortunately...
What are you saying?!